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In response to "there are 30 pitchers in baseball this year who pitched 175+ innings with a WHIP better than his." by groiny

I'm not saying he was Cy Young. He had an off year. It doesn't take advance metrics to see that.

Posted by musubi Nov 25 '09, 14:57

But do you expect him to be better or worse next year? BABIP and his consistant strikeout rates show that there's a very good chance that he will be better.

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you were comparing him to the top 3 on the Cards, and I simply - groiny Nov 25, 14:59 8
- I didn't compare him. Will did. I don't think he's as good as Carp or Wainwright by *any* stretch. But he's not bad. - musubi Nov 25, 15:04 7
  - ok, but you did say, despite his awful run in the post season, that you wouldpitch him over Myers.... - groiny Nov 25, 15:06 6
    - Hell yes. Myers is a mediocre pitcher and beats his gifrlfirend. Hamels is *way* better than him. - musubi Nov 25, 15:10 5
      - 2009: Hamels ERA 4.32, WHIP 1.29 , Myers ERA 4.87, WHIP 1.37 - musubi Nov 25, 15:19 4
        
        did you even WATCH the playoffs? nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 15:20 3
        
        He was pretty terrible. I'd still bet on him being better than Myers *any* day of the week. - musubi Nov 25, 15:24 2
        
        he got shelled every start since the playoffs started. - groiny Nov 25, 15:27 1
        
        Benching Hamels for Myers would be like Guy benching Pujols for being on a 0-25 streak. - musubi Nov 25, 15:31

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I'm not saying he was Cy Young. He had an off year. It doesn't take advance metrics to see that.

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