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In response to "Because of the legal ramifications of "enemy combatants", no?" by Name Withheld By Request

the relevant thing here to me is what is no Mirandizing him going to do? He's going to answer the question or he's not.

Posted by Reagen (aka Reagen) Dec 31 '09, 10:12

Unless you're planning to beat it out of him, what good does not reading him his rights do?

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I hate that we have to protect people against their own idiocy, but I accept it as necessary. - mafic Dec 31, 10:19 9
- No one disputes that he could sit there mum and that's that. But do you really believe that a military interrogater wouldn't have a better chance.... - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:22 8
  - such as...? -- nm - Reagen Dec 31, 10:23 7
    - Here's the list on Wiki as pulled from the field manual: -- (link) - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:37 2
      - other than the last two, I can't see why any of those couldn't be used in normal interrogation. - Reagen Dec 31, 10:40 1 1
        
        At least half the list is rendered ineffective with a lawyer present. At least half. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:43
    - well, there's the hot-coat-hanger-to-the-testes... i think that one's still legal. -- nm - TFox Dec 31, 10:24 3
      - Interrogating someone in the middle of the night just 'cause. I can't imagine the FBI can do that regularly. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:31 2
        
        Why not? FBI agents only work 8-5? - Will Hunting Dec 31, 10:34 1
        
        I'm thinking the lawyer present aspect probably has rules to prevent "abuse" by the legal agency. Could be wrong. - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:35
You treat him like a criminal, provide a lawyer, and the odds of getting information on the wider organization greatly diminishes. - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:15 4
- or maybe his lawyer advises him to spill his guts for a better deal. - Reagen Dec 31, 10:17
- PS: There's no guarantee that he'll ever talk, but the chances are substantially better. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:16 2
  - I seriously don't understand how. *are* we talking about torture here? -- nm - Reagen Dec 31, 10:18 1
    - There's plenty of legal and accepted techiniques that can/are used outside of torture. The time of day when the interrogation takes place for example -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Dec 31, 10:25

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the relevant thing here to me is what is no Mirandizing him going to do? He's going to answer the question or he's not.

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