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I'd vote for Bert Blyleven, Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, and Alomar. -- nm

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Jan 6 '10, 09:43

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I'd vote Blyleven, Raines, Trammel, Larkin, Alomar and McGwire. (nm) - musubi Jan 6, 09:50 1
- Poor Trammel. Ten years too soon. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 6, 09:51
I'd vote for Blyleven, Alomar, Larkin, Raines and Smith. -- nm - Krusty Jan 6, 09:49 17
- I ain't voting for a closer ever if they weren't automatic (Hoffman and Rivera are my only 2 actives who merit it) - Will Hunting Jan 6, 09:50 16
  - I'm kinda on the fence about Lee Smith. His numbers are a lot better than I remember him. - musubi Jan 6, 09:53 4
    - My comments to Krusty.....WHIP matters most to me there. - Will Hunting Jan 6, 09:56 3
      - You make very good points but I think I'd still give a vote to Smith. -- nm - Krusty Jan 6, 10:01
      - That's what I'm talking about. At his peak, his WHIP was 1.219. That's certainly better than I remember him. (nm) - musubi Jan 6, 10:01 1
        
        For me, most HOF pitchers's WHIP iirc is about 1.25. But that's starting pitchers. - Will Hunting Jan 6, 10:03
  - Why won't you vote for a closer? - Krusty Jan 6, 09:52 10
    - There's been far too many closers who pile up huge save #'s without it meaning anything (Armando Benitez was the %-rate leader for a while) - Will Hunting Jan 6, 09:55 3
      - Hell, I'd consider Billy Wagner ahead of Lee Smith. - Will Hunting Jan 6, 10:01 2
        
        I'd agree with that. He's another borderline candidate that I think ends up outside looking in. (nm) - musubi Jan 6, 10:03 1
        
        Yep. Like I said, only 2 right now are Hoff & Rivera. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 6, 10:04
    - It's only the most over-rated position in professional sports. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 6, 09:55 3
      - I disagree, not everyone can do it, a lot of people can't take the pressure of being a closer. - Krusty Jan 6, 09:57 1
        
        Not everyone can, in the sense that not everyone can be a good MLB reliever. - musubi Jan 6, 10:07
      - No kidding. Give *any* MLB pitcher a 2-run lead with only 3 outs to get and I bet they get the job done a lot more often than not. -- nm - Shaun Jan 6, 09:56
    - I misread your post, so you wouldn't vote for them unless they were automatic? - Krusty Jan 6, 09:53 1
      - I don't really think there's any concept of save #'s to actual quality yet. - Will Hunting Jan 6, 09:57
Mr. Expo -- nm - lone canadian leafs fan Jan 6, 09:47
Jeff Blair of the Globe & Mail convinces me that Dawson doesn't merit it based on pedestrian on-base and lousy playoffs when he was "the guy". -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 6, 09:47
I'd like to vote for Hawk, but I just can't get over a .323 on-base percentage and his MVP was kinda undeserved. - musubi Jan 6, 09:45 2
- He also had a SLG% near 480 in a weak-ball era....and had 2 other top 2 MVP finishes. - Will Hunting Jan 6, 10:14
- *nods* -- nm - Don Homer Jan 6, 09:46
Roberto Alomar, Barry Larkin, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Bert Blyleven. -- nm - Don Homer Jan 6, 09:44

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