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In response to "I'm simply applying the same logic that is used to recruit teens into inner-city gangs. Because that's exactly what's happening in Somalia." by Beryllium

Somalia is COMPLETELY different. -- nm

Posted by loosilu (aka loosilu) Nov 19 '08, 10:28

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Non-governmental civil war has lead to a Warlord-state, right? How is that different? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:30 7
- how is that like America, exactly? or even Afghanistan? -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:30 6
  - The warlord-state. That's what gangs are. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:31 5
    - the last I checked, the US does in fact have a government. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:33 4
      - technically, so does somalia. its control just doesn't really extend to where the gangs operate. -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 10:35
      - So ... because America has a government, and Somalia does not, you refuse to see any similarity between gangs and tribes? - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:35 2
        
        if you really think it is the same, this discussion can go nowhere. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:38 1
        
        There's no good guys and there's no bad guys. It's just ... it's just a bunch of guys. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:39
yeah. more guns, less food. -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 10:29 6
- and a lot less government. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:30 5
  - and far longer history of far more intense tribalism. - Mel Profit Nov 19, 10:32 4
    - yep, in other words ... totally different. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:33 3
      - it's a difference in scale rather than structure, but the underlying dynamic is similar, is it not? -- nm - znufrii Nov 19, 10:37 2
        
        I do not think so. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:38 1
        
        It would make a very interesting sociological paper, I think... -- nm - znufrii Nov 19, 10:44

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