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In response to "If he is in a race to the bottom with Robertson then he's losing badly. That's not even close to Robertson saying they deserved it. -- nm" by Ender

At least Robertson says we should help them, in his own, very weird way. It seems Limbaugh is saying people should not donate more -- nm

Posted by Guigue (aka Guigue) Jan 14 '10, 07:30

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That's what you call an out-of-context quote. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:38 30
- give me the context where that doesn't imply that we shouldn't donate to haiti, 'cause I got nothing. -- nm - znufrii Jan 14, 07:51
- I listened to it. They were talking about donations, and he said "We've already donated to Haiti. It's called the U.S. income tax." - Guigue Jan 14, 07:41 28
  - I've already told you - Guigue Jan 14, 07:50 1
    - Oops, this goes under Ender's post below (reposted) -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 07:51
  - Worst, it was in a totally paranoid rant saying that using the whitehouse.gov website to find ways to give to haiti - Guigue Jan 14, 07:43 15
    - umm, except for the fact that the links the whitehouse.gov site provides go directly to the Red Cross anyway. -- nm - znufrii Jan 14, 07:47 14
      - (here's the relevant page, if anyone is interested) -- (link) - znufrii Jan 14, 07:49 13
        
        Of course he's not talking about the actual page on the actual website, he's talking about the government inserting itself between people and charity. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:51 12
        
        You haven't listened to it have you? - Guigue Jan 14, 07:55 1
        
        and the red cross is running the SMS donation number, AFAIK -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 07:55
        
        so he's saying the government *shouldn't* use any means at its disposal to encourage people to donate to charities? - znufrii Jan 14, 07:54
        
        But they're not. They're leveraging a communications platform to helpfully direct people to an existing charity. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 07:53 8
        
        This was in regards to somebody apparently being pointed to whitehouse.gov in order to give. They could just as easily have been pointed to Redcross.org. - Ender Jan 14, 07:56 7
        
        Dude, they are insinuating that the money will not go to Haiti, and that your name will end up on a list and people will call you for contributions -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 07:58 6
        
        You realize he doesn't script 3 hours of show a day and isn't actually intimitely aware of the website right? - Ender Jan 14, 08:01 5
        
        You hear what you want to hear. He specifically said "Would you trust the money's gonna go Haiti?" - Guigue Jan 14, 08:03 4
        
        L4 -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 08:05 3
        
        Dude... Forget it, you suck at arguing -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 08:06 2
        
        To be fair, you suck at picking topics to argue about. 15 seconds of off the cuff dialog does not lend itself to intense analysis. - Ender Jan 14, 08:12 1
        
        If only you had anything to support your interpretation other than your obvious general appreciation for the guy - Guigue Jan 14, 08:15
  - Because he's specifically talking about being directed to Whitehouse.gov to give rather than giving straight to the Red Cross. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:43 9
    - It's in the segment, but I really don't see how the comment is related to that topic - Guigue Jan 14, 07:46 8
      - Please, find for me where he actually says you shouldn't give to charitable organizations. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:47 7
        
        I've already told you - Guigue Jan 14, 07:51 6
        
        You're logic's a little faulty there. "we've already donated" does not equal "we shouldn't donate any more". -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:53 5
        
        In what context does anyone ever say, "I already gave once" and not mean it as a "Do I really have to again?" - Will Hunting Jan 14, 07:54 4
        
        I think we've already talked about Rush enough. Way more than he deserves, in fact. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 07:54 3
        
        I'm just annoyed that Ender's defending him like that -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 07:56 2
        
        Of course you are, it's much easier to bash somebody over 45 seconds in a 3 hour program if nobody defends him. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:58 1
        
        Well defend him then! Prove me wrong! So far you haven't done anything but say "It's out of context! It's unfair!" - Guigue Jan 14, 08:01

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