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In response to "That's what you call an out-of-context quote. -- nm" by Ender

I listened to it. They were talking about donations, and he said "We've already donated to Haiti. It's called the U.S. income tax."

Posted by Guigue (aka Guigue) Jan 14 '10, 07:41

How is it out of context?

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I've already told you - Guigue Jan 14, 07:50 1
- Oops, this goes under Ender's post below (reposted) -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 07:51
Worst, it was in a totally paranoid rant saying that using the whitehouse.gov website to find ways to give to haiti - Guigue Jan 14, 07:43 15
- umm, except for the fact that the links the whitehouse.gov site provides go directly to the Red Cross anyway. -- nm - znufrii Jan 14, 07:47 14
  - (here's the relevant page, if anyone is interested) -- (link) - znufrii Jan 14, 07:49 13
    - Of course he's not talking about the actual page on the actual website, he's talking about the government inserting itself between people and charity. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:51 12
      - You haven't listened to it have you? - Guigue Jan 14, 07:55 1
        
        and the red cross is running the SMS donation number, AFAIK -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 07:55
      - so he's saying the government *shouldn't* use any means at its disposal to encourage people to donate to charities? - znufrii Jan 14, 07:54
      - But they're not. They're leveraging a communications platform to helpfully direct people to an existing charity. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 07:53 8
        
        This was in regards to somebody apparently being pointed to whitehouse.gov in order to give. They could just as easily have been pointed to Redcross.org. - Ender Jan 14, 07:56 7
        
        Dude, they are insinuating that the money will not go to Haiti, and that your name will end up on a list and people will call you for contributions -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 07:58 6
        
        You realize he doesn't script 3 hours of show a day and isn't actually intimitely aware of the website right? - Ender Jan 14, 08:01 5
        
        You hear what you want to hear. He specifically said "Would you trust the money's gonna go Haiti?" - Guigue Jan 14, 08:03 4
        
        L4 -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 08:05 3
        
        Dude... Forget it, you suck at arguing -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 08:06 2
        
        To be fair, you suck at picking topics to argue about. 15 seconds of off the cuff dialog does not lend itself to intense analysis. - Ender Jan 14, 08:12 1
        
        If only you had anything to support your interpretation other than your obvious general appreciation for the guy - Guigue Jan 14, 08:15
Because he's specifically talking about being directed to Whitehouse.gov to give rather than giving straight to the Red Cross. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:43 9
- It's in the segment, but I really don't see how the comment is related to that topic - Guigue Jan 14, 07:46 8
  - Please, find for me where he actually says you shouldn't give to charitable organizations. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:47 7
    - I've already told you - Guigue Jan 14, 07:51 6
      - You're logic's a little faulty there. "we've already donated" does not equal "we shouldn't donate any more". -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:53 5
        
        In what context does anyone ever say, "I already gave once" and not mean it as a "Do I really have to again?" - Will Hunting Jan 14, 07:54 4
        
        I think we've already talked about Rush enough. Way more than he deserves, in fact. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 07:54 3
        
        I'm just annoyed that Ender's defending him like that -- nm - Guigue Jan 14, 07:56 2
        
        Of course you are, it's much easier to bash somebody over 45 seconds in a 3 hour program if nobody defends him. -- nm - Ender Jan 14, 07:58 1
        
        Well defend him then! Prove me wrong! So far you haven't done anything but say "It's out of context! It's unfair!" - Guigue Jan 14, 08:01

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I listened to it. They were talking about donations, and he said "We've already donated to Haiti. It's called the U.S. income tax."

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