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So ... some thoughts on Jay/Conan/Jeff

Posted by Beryllium (aka grayman) Jan 14 '10, 10:32

1) I wished from the moment it was announced that Jay's show would be an epic failure. However, I didn't want it to negatively affect Conan in any way.

2) I stayed up until 2AM watching late night TV last night. I haven't done that for *years*. I used to be a huge Letterman fan, way more so than a Leno fan (Leno was only good for Headlines, and failblog took that from him and ran with it), and I also used to watch Conan a lot. Both guys were on fire last night. :) But, since it got me to watch, I am really interested to see what it did for NBC's ratings.

3) Jay going back to the Tonight show = failure
4) Moving the tonight show to "tomorrow" = failure
5) Jeff Zucker = failure (except for uncancelling chuck. That's a win. But now he'll have to uncancel a hell of a lot to fill the 10PM slot.)

6) Logically speaking, the "give Jay a half hour, and keep Conan too" does make sense, but the fact of the matter is, Jay is *out*. They tried an experiment, and it failed; he has to find something else to do now. Letting him back in is a huge slap in the face to Conan - it's a declaration of war to even be considering it, and I hope that NBC loses that war (just like they've lost so many others of late).

The phrase "How the mighty have fallen" comes to mind, to describe NBC.

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some broken down decrepit giants of a bygone era squabble over scraps....nm - x Jan 14, 10:50 1
- no, you're thinking of the sale of Canwest Publishing -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 10:55
2) Conan has been hilarious the last two nights. Really awesome stuff. -- nm - TFox Jan 14, 10:38 9
- the "really slow news day" moment happened just before the quake in haiti, didn't it? - Beryllium Jan 14, 10:39 5
  - Probably. If you stayed up that late, you watched Fallon? - TFox Jan 14, 10:40 4
    - naw, I skipped Fallon. Recorded Ferguson, though, but haven't watch it yet. - Beryllium Jan 14, 10:41 3
      - oh. boo to you then. here's video, to be filed under "Fallon can actually be sort of funny on late night tv". -- (link) - TFox Jan 14, 10:44 2
        
        Sort of funny is very accurate. -- nm - Reagen Jan 14, 10:51
        
        wow, that's awesome :) -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 10:49
- the ironic part is it would be less of an issue for Conan if everyone who is supporting him on facebook/twitter actually had watched his show the last - fatsquatch Jan 14, 10:39 2
  - *finger to nose* -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 14, 10:43
  - I don't watch late night TV, but I will defend to the death Conan's right to helm it. -- nm - Team CoCo si Jan 14, 10:40
I haven't watched a late night show other than TDS/Colbert in maybe a decade. - Reagen Jan 14, 10:37 4
- Yeah, that's the comment I made to my buddies this morning: What's the "product" of a late night show? Comedy is better elsewhere...... - Name Withheld By Request Jan 14, 10:42 2
  - It's the celebrity interviews. I think the minor spikes in ratings can often be traced to what guests are on the show. -- nm - Dano Jan 14, 10:43 1
    - My instincts tell me even more so then: It's a dying model. What demographic under 40 cares about celebrity interviews on talk shows. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 14, 10:58
- I even cut both of those out over a year ago -- nm - Beryllium Jan 14, 10:37

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