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Posted by [deleted] Jan 19 '10, 16:08

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Coakley in a squeaker. Not a referendum on Obama (again) but a reminder that you have to actually, you know, campaign. To win. - Tim Jan 19, 16:14 24
- If the Democrats lose in Massachusetts tonight, I'll say you see 3 retirements within the week from swing-seat Democrats. - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:23 22
  - You expected way too much from him. - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 16:25 15
    - H expects him to lead. That's not asking too much. - ty97 Jan 19, 16:32 13
      - He has lead. Just not up to the unrealilstic standards some were expecting. -- nm - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 16:33 12
        
        No, he really hasn't. He basically delegated health care and stood back. - ty97 Jan 19, 16:36 1
        
        Nothing in his past that showed he'd do otherwise. - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 16:46
        
        Not really. "Here Nancy and Harry...you two spearhead health care with this rough idea." - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:35 9
        
        And how well did things go for Clinton when he tried to change healthcare. - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 16:43 8
        
        Clinton walked in and had too detailed a plan for the times. - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:44 7
        
        So, how would you have done it? -- nm - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 16:46 6
        
        The last year? If you're going to walk in without a detailed plan upfront, you better have a clear understanding of who the best cheerleader is - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:51 5
        
        That didn't actually answer my question. - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 16:54 4
        
        How would I have done it? Put my best guy on the case. - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:58 3
        
        So in other words you are unhappy he delegated, but if you had been in his shoes you would have delegated? -- nm - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 17:07 2
        
        Where are you getting I woulda delegated when I say you put HIM front and center? - Will Hunting Jan 19, 17:09 1
        
        Sorry misread. If he headed that up he would be doing nothing but healthcare. It's not like he's got nothing better to do. - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 17:18
    - I expected nothing of the guy on actually getting things done. I didn't expect he'd completely mistake what won him the seat in the first place. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:28
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    - Currently. I expect it to change soon. - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:28 4
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        Looks like 2 legit Dems right now (Dorgan & Dodd) and the 3 placeholders - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:33 2
        
        There's a good chance Burris' seat goes Rep. - the liioulu with cake recipes Jan 19, 16:48
        
        And it's implausible to me to realize that Biden & Ted Kennedy's seats could be GOP held within a year. - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:36
- And that's certainly some odd sentence structure there. - Tim Jan 19, 16:16
I agree in principle that whatever change happens should probably phase in over 4 or 6 years. -- nm - Reagen Jan 19, 16:10 19
- Not us!! We want it now because it doesn't cost us anything. -- nm - Nebraska Jan 19, 16:16
- Oh, and I'm fine with the Presidential veto as that represents a separate branch of government. -- nm - Reagen Jan 19, 16:12 11
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    - it's not elected by democratic means? - Reagen Jan 19, 16:15 9
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        (obligatory "reagen is canadian" post) There are shades of democracy. See: Direct Democracy -- nm - Beryllium Jan 19, 16:20
        
        It's democratic enough for the purpose. -- nm - Reagen Jan 19, 16:20 6
        
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        How much more democratic do you want than every voter in the US getting a say? -- nm - Reagen Jan 19, 16:32 2
        
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        enough so that it doesn't impede the function of it. -- nm - Reagen Jan 19, 16:35
        
        The Prez got more votes than any of those guys. -- nm - Senator Vermin Jan 19, 16:23 1
        
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  - sheer number of filibusters. - Reagen Jan 19, 16:13 4
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      - It seems as though there was simply a gentleman's agreement not to. - Reagen Jan 19, 16:22 1
        
        Now all we need is a gentleswine's agreement -- nm - con_carne Jan 19, 16:31
    - This. (nm) - musubi Jan 19, 16:16
Polling is notoriously bad in MA. The Dems keep it comfortably. -- nm - nubby Jan 19, 16:10
Tom Brady wins on the write-in vote, with 97% of the vote. (nm) - musubi Jan 19, 16:10 10
- after last week's game? no way. -- nm - Dano Jan 19, 16:11 7
  - That explains the other 3%. (nm) - musubi Jan 19, 16:15 6
    - You greatly underestimate how long it takes for Patriots fans to get over things. -- nm - Dano Jan 19, 16:17 5
      - I think you're overestimating how long it's gonna take Pats fans to get over Tom Brady. (nm) - musubi Jan 19, 16:18 3
        
        No wait. Make that underestimating. Dammit. (nm) - musubi Jan 19, 16:19 2
        
        Ha Ha. You are dumb. -- nm - Dano Jan 19, 16:21 1
        
        I am. But I'm still right. (nm) - musubi Jan 19, 16:21
      - I dunno...it only took em like 50 minutes of game time to get over the fact they were watching the team of the decade. - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:17
- He couldn't fuck up DC any worse the 536 treasonous bastards we got there currently. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 19, 16:10 1
  - 535. The guy I voted for is all right. It's all the rest of 'em that suck ass! -- nm - America Jan 19, 16:20
Kennedy. they always win there :) - peglegpete Jan 19, 16:09 2
- Actually, I think I read that there is a Kennedy who's not even on the ballot, but getting around 3% in the polls. :) -- nm - Senator Vermin Jan 19, 16:13 1
  - I may have this wrong. On the ballot, but not connected to the 'real' Kennedy family. -- nm - Senator Vermin Jan 19, 16:19
I hope hope hope it won't be close enough to have 10 recounts. -- nm - Redmond Jan 19, 16:09
The Scott Heard 'Round the World by 5 points. -- nm - Senator Vermin Jan 19, 16:09

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