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In a country with medicare and social security, how can anyone honestly claim that Liberalism is a failure?

Posted by Mop (aka rburriel) Jan 19 '10, 19:04

It's certainly been branded an albatross by the very successful conservative spin machine, but people love their gov't entitlements, call it what you will.

Mop

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Not sure I would use the two programs that are scheduled to go broke if they aren't restructured as my example. -- nm - Redmond Jan 19, 19:05 13
- restructuring medicare is part of the Dem's health care reform bill -- nm - i'm gay for batman Jan 19, 19:07 4
  - Yes, and the problem is it's being reported as a cut and not a restructure which scares the shit out of seniors. -- nm - Redmond Jan 19, 19:10 3
    - There's no doubt that the GOP has a better message machine. -- nm - Mop Jan 19, 19:11 2
      - At the momenent yes. Two years ago, no. -- nm - Redmond Jan 19, 19:15 1
        
        moment -- nm - Redmond Jan 19, 19:15
- And *why* are they going broke? - Beryllium Jan 19, 19:06 7
  - Because, as a culture, we're not very responsible financially. - ty97 Jan 19, 19:36
  - Partially because doing any kind of major reform on anything takes 60 Senate votes. - Dano Jan 19, 19:11 2
    - See: California -- nm - TFox Jan 19, 19:45
    - *ding* -- nm - Reagen Jan 19, 19:12
  - Because they are funded wrong, and the Baby Boom generation is about to take out more money then they ever put in. - Redmond Jan 19, 19:08
  - the paperwork alone that the US deals with would kill me -- nm - Andie Jan 19, 19:07 1
    - but if it helps people manage their dia-bee-tus and walrus moustaches, then it's a good thing in their minds -- nm - Beryllium Jan 19, 19:07

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In a country with medicare and social security, how can anyone honestly claim that Liberalism is a failure?

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