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In response to "I can only guess that he probably knew of his "addiction" before he got married." by groiny

"See? I'm not really a lying cheating piece of shit bastard...I have a disease!!!!"

Posted by Jim (aka Jim) Jan 20 '10, 08:44

What a crock of shit.

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this is what i take issue with. i haven't seen him shun responsibility for any of this once. not a single word of his statements. - TFox Jan 20, 08:48 26
- My lack of faith in his personal 'judgment' of his fault is genuinely diminishing my belief in this. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 08:53
- I see it completely differently. It's acknowledging that you did it...but that it's definitely NOT your fault. You couldn't help it...you were - Jim Jan 20, 08:50 24
  - I 100% disagree that implicit in acknowledging an addiction/mental health problem is a disassociation of responsibility. 100%. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:52 23
    - nmblink -- (link) - znufrii Jan 20, 08:55 [Backboard] 2 1
      - Damn TFox...even znufrii's calling you out on this post. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 20, 08:56 1
        
        whatever. i wanted to fit in in a subject. so shoot me. :) -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:57
    - *BAM* Jim, you just got znuffri'd. (nm) - musubi Jan 20, 08:54 17
      - in other words, i could be mad wrong, but nowhere in AA (I think) does it say "you aren't at fault for what you did". - TFox Jan 20, 08:56 16
        
        correct. - znufrii Jan 20, 08:57 2
        
        perhaps, though with no non-speculative evidence to the contrary... -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:00 1
        
        it just doesn't pass the smell test for me. - znufrii Jan 20, 09:04
        
        In AA, those people are often wired to 'need' the chemical bonds that booze gives them. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 08:57 12
        
        this is way too hair-splitty for me. there just isn't a big enough gap between alcoholism and sex addiction to treat them completely differently. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:59 2
        
        I don't believe I'm treating them differently. Maybe I'm not following here. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:06
        
        I agree with TFox. (nm) - musubi Jan 20, 09:01
        
        Then how can they quit? -- nm - mara Jan 20, 08:59 8
        
        You learn coping mechanisms to replace that 'need' for the bond - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:03 4
        
        And how is chemical addiction different? Yes, there is breaking the physical addiction, but it can't be "cured" without addressing the psyhological - pmb Jan 20, 09:04 2
        
        You're argument seems to be coming from the yes Tiger's a sex addict becuase he went to the clinic. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:08 1
        
        My argument is that you don't have a frikkin' clue whether he's in that boat or not. - pmb Jan 20, 09:10
        
        but this is the *exact* same thing. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:03
        
        by manning up and not drinking. - groiny Jan 20, 09:01 2
        
        Which means maybe those chemical bonds are not so necessary after all. -- nm - mara Jan 20, 09:02
        
        by seeking help like AA/sex addition treatment, they are manning up double. - TFox Jan 20, 09:02
    - big words. -- nm - Beaker Jan 20, 08:53 1
      - (i know, huh? i like these though. i think most of us can follow these.) :) -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:54

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