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In response to "this is what i take issue with. i haven't seen him shun responsibility for any of this once. not a single word of his statements." by TFox

I see it completely differently. It's acknowledging that you did it...but that it's definitely NOT your fault. You couldn't help it...you were

Posted by Jim (aka Jim) Jan 20 '10, 08:50

addicted.

To that I say...if you're so addicted...why not just fuck your amazingly gorgeous wife 3 times a day?

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I 100% disagree that implicit in acknowledging an addiction/mental health problem is a disassociation of responsibility. 100%. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:52 23
- nmblink -- (link) - znufrii Jan 20, 08:55 [Backboard] 2 1
  - Damn TFox...even znufrii's calling you out on this post. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 20, 08:56 1
    - whatever. i wanted to fit in in a subject. so shoot me. :) -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:57
- *BAM* Jim, you just got znuffri'd. (nm) - musubi Jan 20, 08:54 17
  - in other words, i could be mad wrong, but nowhere in AA (I think) does it say "you aren't at fault for what you did". - TFox Jan 20, 08:56 16
    - correct. - znufrii Jan 20, 08:57 2
      - perhaps, though with no non-speculative evidence to the contrary... -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:00 1
        
        it just doesn't pass the smell test for me. - znufrii Jan 20, 09:04
    - In AA, those people are often wired to 'need' the chemical bonds that booze gives them. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 08:57 12
      - this is way too hair-splitty for me. there just isn't a big enough gap between alcoholism and sex addiction to treat them completely differently. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:59 2
        
        I don't believe I'm treating them differently. Maybe I'm not following here. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:06
        
        I agree with TFox. (nm) - musubi Jan 20, 09:01
      - Then how can they quit? -- nm - mara Jan 20, 08:59 8
        
        You learn coping mechanisms to replace that 'need' for the bond - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:03 4
        
        And how is chemical addiction different? Yes, there is breaking the physical addiction, but it can't be "cured" without addressing the psyhological - pmb Jan 20, 09:04 2
        
        You're argument seems to be coming from the yes Tiger's a sex addict becuase he went to the clinic. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:08 1
        
        My argument is that you don't have a frikkin' clue whether he's in that boat or not. - pmb Jan 20, 09:10
        
        but this is the *exact* same thing. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:03
        
        by manning up and not drinking. - groiny Jan 20, 09:01 2
        
        Which means maybe those chemical bonds are not so necessary after all. -- nm - mara Jan 20, 09:02
        
        by seeking help like AA/sex addition treatment, they are manning up double. - TFox Jan 20, 09:02
- big words. -- nm - Beaker Jan 20, 08:53 1
  - (i know, huh? i like these though. i think most of us can follow these.) :) -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 08:54

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