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In response to
"
I 100% disagree that implicit in acknowledging an addiction/mental health problem is a disassociation of responsibility. 100%. -- nm
"
by
TFox
*BAM* Jim, you just got znuffri'd. (nm)
Posted by
musubi
Jan 20 '10, 08:54
oh yeah, I said it.
Responses:
in other words, i could be mad wrong, but nowhere in AA (I think) does it say "you aren't at fault for what you did".
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TFox
Jan 20, 08:56
16
correct.
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znufrii
Jan 20, 08:57
2
perhaps, though with no non-speculative evidence to the contrary... -- nm
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TFox
Jan 20, 09:00
1
it just doesn't pass the smell test for me.
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znufrii
Jan 20, 09:04
In AA, those people are often wired to 'need' the chemical bonds that booze gives them.
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Will Hunting
Jan 20, 08:57
12
this is way too hair-splitty for me. there just isn't a big enough gap between alcoholism and sex addiction to treat them completely differently. -- nm
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TFox
Jan 20, 08:59
2
I don't believe I'm treating them differently. Maybe I'm not following here.
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Will Hunting
Jan 20, 09:06
I agree with TFox. (nm)
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musubi
Jan 20, 09:01
Then how can they quit? -- nm
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mara
Jan 20, 08:59
8
You learn coping mechanisms to replace that 'need' for the bond
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Will Hunting
Jan 20, 09:03
4
And how is chemical addiction different? Yes, there is breaking the physical addiction, but it can't be "cured" without addressing the psyhological
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pmb
Jan 20, 09:04
2
You're argument seems to be coming from the yes Tiger's a sex addict becuase he went to the clinic.
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Will Hunting
Jan 20, 09:08
1
My argument is that you don't have a frikkin' clue whether he's in that boat or not.
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pmb
Jan 20, 09:10
but this is the *exact* same thing. -- nm
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TFox
Jan 20, 09:03
by manning up and not drinking.
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groiny
Jan 20, 09:01
2
Which means maybe those chemical bonds are not so necessary after all. -- nm
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mara
Jan 20, 09:02
by seeking help like AA/sex addition treatment, they are manning up double.
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TFox
Jan 20, 09:02
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