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In the day of laptops and blackberries, the idea that a CEO waiting for a flight can't do anything is baffling. (nm)

Posted by musubi Nov 19 '08, 15:22

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fwiw, i agree with ender on b2. - b! Nov 19, 15:47 4
- as for multi meetings in the same day...they can tele-conference and not even have to leave the home office. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 19, 16:02 3
  - that's not always appropriate. - b! Nov 19, 16:06 2
    - It's not always, but in today's age of telecommunications, the need for travel is *much* reduced. - musubi Nov 19, 16:11 1
      - exactly... - Mel Profit Nov 19, 16:19
Srry C0ngre55. Pl@ne 45 m1n late. LugGage in Mex1c0. CU.$oon - Stewie Nov 19, 15:31 [Backboard] 11
- look, I don't want them to fail. I'm for helping. But if this is the judgement they use on expenses, then I want a huge amount of oversight. - crash davis Nov 19, 15:48 1
  - Absolutely. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:51
- it's not class warfare. they deserve to fail because management and workers combined to form companies incapable of competing internationally.... - x Nov 19, 15:38 6
  - you keep saying they can't compete internationally but Ford's international business has been profitable - Stewie Nov 19, 15:46 5
    - if they can make money on their international divisions, more power to 'em. let them shut down their non-profitable domestic operations or... - x Nov 19, 15:52
    - Don't Honda and Toyota both manufacture in the US? - musubi Nov 19, 15:49 2
      - And canada. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:52 1
        
        Where safety standards and labor costs are arguably even higher than in the U.S. -- nm - Mop Nov 19, 16:29
    - Labor standards is a scape goat. The same standards apply to Japanese automakers with US factories. Unions... that's another matter. -- nm - Mop Nov 19, 15:48
- Yeah, because they can't possibly get here early. - musubi Nov 19, 15:37
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In the day of high price call girls, trophy wives, and executive lounges, the idea that a CEO waiting for a flight can't do anything is baffling. -- nm - Mop Nov 19, 15:26
not to mention telephone and video conferencing -- nm - M Nov 19, 15:24
This is what I'm saying. Private jets are for dinosaurs and douchebags. - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:24 7
- not all of them are so luxurious. - b! Nov 19, 15:57 3
  - Indeed. Ditto for yachts. But this hatey (and the associated misconceptions) stems from 80s-style business tactics. - Beryllium Nov 19, 16:00 2
    - ah, i get that; and it presented with some dot-coms, too. i'm not a fan of willy-nilly spending, even for successful companies. -- nm - b! Nov 19, 16:08 1
      - Indeed. While some willy-nilly spending is OK in good times, you have to prove that you're fiscally capable of withstanding bad times. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 16:10
- Nothing at all like yachts, right? -- nm - Mop Nov 19, 15:29 2
  - Oh, yachts are for douchebags. Perkins, Ballmer, Allen, Branson, all of them. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:30 1
    - ... but *most of all*, Ellison -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:46
You assume they know how to use all the latest tech and not just their assistants. -- nm - VMan Nov 19, 15:23 18
- If my girlfriend's 90 year old grandmother can send emails, every CEO on the planet should be capable of it. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:24 8
  - Forward this e-mail to 20 people or you will have bad luck. -- nm - Bery's grandmother Nov 19, 15:28 6
    - My grandmothers are dead, jackass. - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:29 5
      - Then you've got a pretty talented grandmother. -- nm - Mop Nov 19, 15:29 4
        
        you missed the part where I said "my GF's grandmother" -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:30 3
        
        No, I got that part. It just didn't play well with test audiences. "Why is his GF's grandma sending him e-mails?" they asked. - Mop Nov 19, 15:33 1
        
        *snicker* You work for FOX, don't you? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:35
        
        He was probably just in shock and couldn't believe you have a GF so ignored that part. - Cuzzin Toddfurky Nov 19, 15:32
  - (I have to deal with a fucking luddite dinosaur on the strata council. Pain in the fucking ass.) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:25
- Indeed quite the assumption on my part. - musubi Nov 19, 15:24
- I don't think you know what you are arguing for anymore -- nm - amoxy Nov 19, 15:24 7
  - I never said the automotive leadership was bright. -- nm - VMan Nov 19, 15:25 6
    - so you want to give a bunch of idiots a massive bailout from our tax money? -- nm - Guy Nov 19, 16:39
    - ... great! So how about you fill in a special box on your income tax form that says "yes, I agree to give a portion of my taxes to the auto industry"? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:26 4
      - I would prefer they make different arrangements than a flat handout. I'll also admit I'm biased being based in automotive central. - VMan Nov 19, 15:29 3
        
        Oh, I don't want them to fail. I just want them to reorganize. And I agree with Will (I think) that unions are part of the problem. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:31 2
        
        This is why the plane thing is not a big deal. They should have been discussing restructuring and financing issues not scoring cheap points. - VMan Nov 19, 15:36 1
        
        But like I said, it appears to be a symptom of a systemic issue, a recurring reason NOT to bail them out. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 15:37

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