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In response to "And Will, LIR but, "If I go out and drink and act like a violent asshole; that doesn't make me an alcoholic"?" by TFox

If I stop drinking becuase I realized the issue, I'm not beholden to the booze...I'm not addicted.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Jan 20 '10, 09:10

The booze didn't control me in that instance.

Tiger having a dick didn't make him put it in cocktail waitresses against his 'will'.

I see a HUGE difference here between a guy who thought he could get away with adultery and a guy who was unable to stop that behavior even at the fullest cost of his life around him.

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And Will, my point is (which was LIR), that you don't have a clue what it is. - pmb Jan 20, 09:14
Alcoholics don't drink against their will either. It's still a choice. Admitting adiction doesn't equal saying "it's not my fault". - musubi Jan 20, 09:11 12
- Alcoholics can make a million excuses to have a drink (despite previous horrible consequences). - Andie Jan 20, 09:16 2
  - I agree and nothing I've said contradicts this. (nm) - musubi Jan 20, 09:25
  - The extent of the compartmentalized thinking is just amazing. -- nm - mara Jan 20, 09:20
- They are severely compromised by the 'need' for the stimulus. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:15 8
  - It may be easier to say that, but that doesn't make it true. - musubi Jan 20, 09:17 7
    - i lived with an alchoholic i feel pretty confident saying she was not in control of herself. -- nm - Andie Jan 20, 09:18 6
      - Does it absolve her for responsibility of her actions? No, and that's what we're saying. - musubi Jan 20, 09:24 5
        
        I never made this leap, at least knowingly. I don't believe it absolves him of all fault. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:30
        
        hell no, but it does explain them to a degree. i have no comment on Tiger, just because i don't know. - Andie Jan 20, 09:26 3
        
        They do have a choice. They accept powerlessness over alcohol, but they have the choice to reachout and get help to stop. - musubi Jan 20, 09:52 2
        
        i don't think we can say that. -- nm - Andie Jan 20, 09:55 1
        
        My understanding (and I'll gladly admit to being mistaken if I am), is that is the foundation of AA. - musubi Jan 20, 09:59

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