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In response to "As we have noted. "Do I drink too much?" vs "Do I sleep with too many women that are not my wife?" are *worlds* apart. -- nm" by Spawn: Champion of ST

Not necessarily.

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Jan 20 '10, 09:44

You guys have to understand that none of this is an excuse for his behavior. It doesn't mean his wife should forgive him or that he should still be a role model for children. He bears responsibility for his behavior. Where we disagree is that what some of us are saying is that this is him taking responsibility for his behavior and trying to deal with it. It may very well not be as simple as "don't do that". It is possible to still have some compassion for someone who is dealing with serious issues, even without excusing his behavior. We're in no position to judge whether this is sincere or not, but why assume it's not.

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In all honesty, I don't care how sincere he is. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 20, 09:45 22
- if it just boils down to "fuck him, i could give a shit why", then fine. we don't need to debate anything then. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:46 21
  - But that is not really it. If he jammed a chick or two, maybe. - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 20, 09:49 13
    - so he would need help, right? because that is fucked up? -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:49 12
      - well, serial killing is a bit of a stretch..... - groiny Jan 20, 09:53 7
        
        Just saying that a true compulsion will always be there. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 20, 09:56 2
        
        but he can learn how to channel it more constructively, contain it, step back, deal with it. that's what treatment is *for*. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:57 1
        
        If he was to stupid to figure that out on his own, nobody will be able to teach him. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 20, 09:58
        
        Because it's possible that you can handle somethings in your life exceptionally well and struggle with others. - pmb Jan 20, 09:56 2
        
        yet, it is not indicate "addiction". - groiny Jan 20, 09:59 1
        
        Again: admitting addiction does *NOT* equal denying responsibility for actions. (nm) - musubi Jan 20, 10:01
        
        you will get no argument from me that he shouldn't have gotten married. that is clearly true. - TFox Jan 20, 09:55
      - And here is the main reason I dropped out of my psychology major... he is beyond help. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 20, 09:51 3
        
        how you could possibly know that is amazing. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:52 2
        
        He is only going because he has to. If it is addiction, no way it will do any good. The getting caught will do it, maybe but nothing that will be - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 20, 09:55 1
        
        how you could possibly know that is amazing. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:56
  - I thought this was pmb's entire point about we don't know anything so shut up about it posts. - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:47 6
    - there is a difference between "i've made up my mind about him and nothing can convince me otherwise" and "I don't know so I'm not ruling it out". -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:51 5
      - The evidence to convince me otherwise was....what? - Will Hunting Jan 20, 09:57 3
        
        you have no evidence to support your iron clad opinion. -- nm - TFox Jan 20, 09:59 2
        
        Well, there's more smoke for his position (Tiger just liked jamming chicks, got caught and now he's doing PR) than the Tiger is afflicted argument. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 20, 10:05 1
        
        That's what I'm saying...I'll gladly stand on my side given the likelyhood of which is right. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 20, 10:06
      - Exactly. -- nm - pmb Jan 20, 09:53

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