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LIR: Moose, I'm so not a Jay-hater. He's been my favorite 11:30 host until he left. -- nm

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Jan 21 '10, 09:11

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Then you're just wrong. Also wrong about Leterman not using stuff from the past. - musubi Jan 21, 09:15
Letterman's totally injected himself into the NBC mess and done so with such glee that he's become a part of the story. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:14 42
- maybe cause NBC and Jay f'd him out of the show that Carson wanted him to take over? -- nm - i'm gay for batman Jan 21, 09:16 27
  - I agree he did get screwed about it, but he can't pretend that last night's joke was out of bounds either. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:18 26
    - Thing is, afaict, Dave never pretended it was over the line. Will seems to think it is, which is just silly. - musubi Jan 21, 09:19 24
      - If you're going to go personal (not business), you better be funny. - Will Hunting Jan 21, 09:22 6
        
        That's BS. *Some* business is personal when you're a celeb. Late night comedians skewer celeb personal life *every day*. - musubi Jan 21, 09:26 5
        
        how is it not involving letterman's wife, when it's his marriage that's mentioned? - b. Jan 21, 09:39 4
        
        Because the humour is about the flaws in his life, not hers. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:47 3
        
        you can't have one without the other there. --nm - b. Jan 21, 09:48 2
        
        So are jokes about Tiger's infidelity an attack on Elin? John Edwards jokes an attack on Elizabeth? Of course not. (nm) - musubi Jan 21, 09:50 1
        
        so much depends on how things are phrased. (that said, I'm not changing your mind; and I give up.) -- nm - b. Jan 21, 09:52
      - it's like someone on ST (who is not lafarrow) going after your mother b/c you zinged them with an st-based shiv -- nm - i'm gay for batman Jan 21, 09:21 16
        
        Oh hardly. Letterman set it up because of his own philandering story just three and a half months old. - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:25 15
        
        the only reason it became public knowledge is b/c he fell on the sword when the dude tried to blackmail him - i'm gay for batman Jan 21, 09:28 1
        
        And the only reason Lewinski's is known is because Linda Tripp. So what? - musubi Jan 21, 09:35
        
        and he himself made Clinton intern jokes for how many years? -- nm - loosilu Jan 21, 09:28 12
        
        Exactly. This stuff about Leno crossing the line cause it's not currently topical is silly. (nm) - musubi Jan 21, 09:32 11
        
        I don't know how to make it any clearer. Letterman has been ruthless on Leno for several days. - Jim Jan 21, 09:38 10
        
        This is *ridiculous*. Letterman *WAS* unfaithful. It's fact. This isn't some random poke. This is like taking offense at Tiger Woods jokes. - musubi Jan 21, 09:41 4
        
        timing matters, man. addressing something from *months* ago as retaliation for something unrelated is cheap. -- nm - b. Jan 21, 09:45 2
        
        Letterman constantly refers to Leno taking over the Tonight Show which happened *years* ago. - musubi Jan 21, 09:46 1
        
        jay uses old targets all the time, too. you're missing that my focus was the retaliation tactic. -- nm - b. Jan 21, 09:47
        
        Sure...he was unfaithful. So what? It's like getting into an argument with someone at work because of their poor job performance... - Jim Jan 21, 09:44
        
        not every bit of it. There was one reference about how Leno has cars, not kids ... and then there's Big Jaw -- nm - Beryllium Jan 21, 09:40 3
        
        fwiw, I thought he meant the cars thing more as a knock on overimportance of things. -- nm - b. Jan 21, 09:46
        
        Didn't hear the cars not kids thing. And I don't care for the whole "big jaw" thing either. Dave doesn't have to go there to get his point across - Jim Jan 21, 09:41 1
        
        The Chin has been a running joke for *years*. Nothing wrong with that. - musubi Jan 21, 09:44
        
        Yep. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 21, 09:39
    - He is part of this *because* of the history. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 21, 09:19
- He was already part of the story, because of his history with Jay. My point is not that Letterman crossed any lines too, rather that neither have. - musubi Jan 21, 09:16 13
  - Yes, Leno's not funny, but the joke itself is. "How do you get this guy to leave you alone? Marry him." is funny. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:19 12
    - it's not even funny on a funny level -- nm - i'm gay for batman Jan 21, 09:22
    - Wow. pixie level humor is funny to you? -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 21, 09:20 10
      - And humor that is milder that half the jokes made everyday on late night is over the line to you? (nm) - musubi Jan 21, 09:21 9
        
        I don't care about the line. It was not funny. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 21, 09:24
        
        Exactly. In the context of the last two weeks and with Letterman's recent history, how is that not a good shiv? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:23 7
        
        I believe that if any of the other guys said it, no one would be saying boo. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:26 6
        
        Because either of them would have made it *funny*. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 21, 09:27 5
        
        So say that it was unfunny, not that he overreacted (shotgun per you B2 post). - musubi Jan 21, 09:31 3
        
        The IM was the key to my message. -- nm - Spawn: Champion of ST Jan 21, 09:35
        
        it can be both -- nm - i'm gay for batman Jan 21, 09:33 1
        
        So make a cogent arguement for it being over the line. So far the only rational arguement has been it's unfunny. - musubi Jan 21, 09:36
        
        Word for word. Yet it would be a different reaction. Hell, it's funnier than some of the lines Kimmel did last week that got him tons of praise. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jan 21, 09:30

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