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In response to "Those Somali pirates? they've taken $150M in a year" by decline

how has this not illicited an overwhelming military response? -- nm

Posted by Mel Profit (aka Mel Profit) Nov 21 '08, 07:31

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Nobody cares about Africa. -- nm - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 21, 07:47
multiple reasons, for instance navies are largely deployed elsewhere. Second, the ships are flying under many flags. Third, Somalia itself? Useless. - loosilu Nov 21, 07:41 6
- it's a good thing I'm not in charge I think. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 21, 07:47
- yep. the us navy clearly wants very little to do with policing the area....nm - x Nov 21, 07:46
- fifth, paying the ransom is a pittance compared to the value of the ship and cargo as a whole, and the potential risk thereto from military action. -- nm - znufrii Nov 21, 07:42 3
  - Getting back the current ship/hostages is one thing. Preventing further piracy is quite another. -- nm - Ender Nov 21, 07:44 2
    - yes, I think we need to start rethinking what we do there and how we do it. - Mel Profit Nov 21, 07:48
    - this is true. however I interpreted the original inquiry to be regarding reactive force as opposed to preventative force. -- nm - znufrii Nov 21, 07:46
You'd think the world could nip this problem in the bud if just a few nations sent frigates on patrol in those waters. -- nm - Ender Nov 21, 07:40 5
- takes more than a few frigates to patrol 2-3 million square miles. -- nm - loosilu Nov 21, 07:41 4
  - They wouldn't need to be randomly patrolling. We only care about a few mile radius around cargo ships. -- nm - Ender Nov 21, 07:43 3
    - so who guards what ships? say it's registered in Liberia, what navy protects them? -- nm - loosilu Nov 21, 07:44 2
      - I'm envisioning a multinational task force that would escort any ships, regardless of country of origin. -- nm - Ender Nov 21, 07:47 1
        
        the EU is in fact deploying one, but they don't have anywhere near the capacity to make it really safe. -- nm - loosilu Nov 21, 07:48
Their are several navy's in the area now, but the problem is the area is just way too big - decline Nov 21, 07:40 5
- the real solution is to deal with the problem at the source, which Somalia can't do. -- nm - loosilu Nov 21, 07:42 4
  - absolutely....nm - x Nov 21, 07:47
  - have we discussed how commercial fishing trawlers have devastated the coastal fishing economy there, which is another impulse to engage in piracy? - znufrii Nov 21, 07:45 2
    - that was their original excuse for piracy, but they've long ago abandoned that pretense. -- nm - loosilu Nov 21, 07:47 1
      - gotcha -- nm - znufrii Nov 21, 07:47
it has not elicited a military response due to the inheherent risks of such, to the crew and ship's cargo. -- nm - znufrii Nov 21, 07:36 2
- Has anything leaked on how much they want for the tanker? -- nm - VMan Nov 21, 07:38 1
  - not that I've heard...but I haven't been paying that close attention to the situation. -- nm - znufrii Nov 21, 07:39

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