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Is Obama really okay with being a one-term Pres.? -- (link)

Posted by Dr.Vermin (aka Dr.Vermin) Feb 17 '10, 10:35

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Seems hard to fathom, but Peggy here makes a decent case for the possibility. (online.wsj.com)

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I can't believe they're touting the stimulus. I'd stay clear of that controversy if I were him. -- nm - Qale Feb 17, 10:56 8
- it's working -- nm - poochinski Feb 17, 10:59 7
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    - well, 94% of wrong Americans can't be wrong! -- nm - poochinski Feb 17, 11:03 5
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        God dammit, I hate political talk. - musubi Feb 17, 11:06
        
        or they haven't actually touted it enough -- nm - poochinski Feb 17, 11:04 2
        
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        astounded that i would recognize the White House hasn't been forceful enough in setting the terms of debate? -- nm - poochinski Feb 17, 11:08
i suspect he's got more in him than "just" the presidency -- nm - Danedukenuuk Feb 17, 10:48
If he doesn't get on his j-o-b here soon, it won't matter if he's ok with it or not. -- nm - Jim Feb 17, 10:39 3
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  - Big Bill was in almost the same spot in his frist term as well. -- nm - Remlik Feb 17, 10:56 1
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I've been thinking that it would be better if you could only be a one term President. - Loyola Feb 17, 10:37 27
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  - Virginia's governor's can only serve 1 consecutive term. And they are pretty much worthless; far less power than the state legislature (which of - Don Homer Feb 17, 10:52
- No chance...the opposition just waits you out as the GOP has done in the last 12 months here and are going to be rewarded for in November. - Will Hunting Feb 17, 10:48
- yeah, I'm starting to think this might be best for all political offices. - Dr.Vermin Feb 17, 10:46 23
  - You don't learn to be a good politician overnight, so the learning curve alone would result in a lot of mistakes, errors. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 10:55 6
    - easy. you make the jobs of congressional staffers civil service positions. - znufrii Feb 17, 11:01 2
      - But to get anything done, congressmen and staffers would have to develop good relationships. Having only two years to do this makes it difficult -- nm - Roger More Feb 17, 11:04 1
        
        well, I don't think a single-term limit (for representatives at least) would be feasible in the first place... -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 11:04
    - I am a bit cynical as to what "how to be a good politician" really entails... - Dr.Vermin Feb 17, 10:59 2
      - Having worked directly with rookie pols who were well-meaning, but naive to the guts of the actually machinery of office, I can tell you it's mostly.. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 11:07
      - except in our current system, the desire to do the former necessitates the latter, pretty much. -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 11:02
  - We already have term limits and career politicians exist only becuase we permit them. - Will Hunting Feb 17, 10:51 11
    - how do you propose to solve the issue? -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 10:57 9
      - Other than mass murder, there's no answer. We get what we deserve. - Will Hunting Feb 17, 11:06 2
        
        *that's* practical, for sure. - znufrii Feb 17, 11:07 1
        
        You want practical? The SC pretty much made practical non-useful last month - Will Hunting Feb 17, 11:14
      - Independent adminsitration of elections and electoral boundaries. It's really that simple. -- nm - Roger More Feb 17, 11:05 5
        
        well, yes, that would be a start... -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 11:06 4
        
        Fewer gerrymandered electorates would give candidates more incentive to appeal to the centre to win the election, and less to skew hard to the right - Roger More Feb 17, 11:10 3
        
        Of course, I'd just as soon do away qith geographic delineations of congressional districts altogether. - znufrii Feb 17, 11:11 2
        
        Once you have a democratic system in place, you have to reform it through baby-steps -- nm - Roger More Feb 17, 11:15
        
        *goes to change his pants* -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 11:12
    - No argument there. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Feb 17, 10:55
  - its not so much the political office itself that is the career these days, its the sattelites of political influence surrounding them... -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 10:48 3
    - term limits are a good start, imho, but how do you prevent them from hanging around to influence things after they've left office? -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 10:49 2
      - I guess my thinking is that most lobbying/influence is done by contributing to the incumbent's campaign fund, right? - Dr.Vermin Feb 17, 10:53 1
        
        there's also the staff members that get jobs with lobbying firms, the industry insiders hired as congressional staff...the money is just part of it... - znufrii Feb 17, 10:56

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