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inflammatory subject aside, Vermin, I agree that Obama should go ahead and push through (or more accurately get Senate and House leaders to push)

Posted by Reagen (aka Reagen) Feb 17 '10, 11:54

political power unused is political power squandered.

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Yeah, I would hate if he did that, but I couldn't criticize him for it. - Dr.Vermin Feb 17, 11:58 12
- That's not entirely true either - otherwise you'd have privatized social security - Reagen Feb 17, 12:15
- The Democratic Party's problem is not playing defense well enough. Their offense has been fine. - nubby Feb 17, 12:01 10
  - The Democratic Party's problem is that they're the Democratic Party. -- nm - znufrii Feb 17, 12:03 1
    - "I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat." -- nm - Will Rogers Feb 17, 12:04
  - Their offence has been fine? On what fronts? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:01 7
    - Trying to make a reasoned argument to the public. - nubby Feb 17, 12:03 6
      - Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression not being immersed in your local medias, but I get the sense that the opposition goes beyond "death panals". - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:11 5
        
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        This. But too many prefer to paint the argument as intellectuals vs. idiots. - Dr.Vermin Feb 17, 12:13 3
        
        Even if it's true. :p - nubby Feb 17, 12:16 2
        
        F+! -- nm - Dr.Vermin, ;) Feb 17, 12:18
        
        nubby, please! -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:18
Agreed. -- nm - TWuG Feb 17, 11:56
I'm all for the "not stooping to their level" idea, but in the end you've got to do what you feel is best for the country. -- nm - nubby Feb 17, 11:55 8
- I don't feel that there was neccesarily stooping to any level - they had a majority in both Houses and used them. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 11:57 7
  - I just walked in, so it's very possible we're talking about two different things. - nubby Feb 17, 11:59 6
    - in part. More on the larger picture of how Obama would be more effective as a leader. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:02 5
      - Are we convinced that it's not too early to just acknowledge he's likely a bad president? - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:08 4
        
        I'm not saying the stimulus was a political masterstroke or anything - if McCain would have been elected he would have done the same. - Reagen Feb 17, 12:18 2
        
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        To the IM, depends where you stand. Many would have criticized McCain just as much. (Ala yours truly and our spending last spring.) - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:21
        
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inflammatory subject aside, Vermin, I agree that Obama should go ahead and push through (or more accurately get Senate and House leaders to push)

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