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Just a quick question on the foster-care story...What would you expect to be different? The foster programs closure is a by-product of the changes....

Posted by Name Withheld By Request (aka BlueKopo) Feb 18 '10, 09:49

...Taking place in society. The Archdiocese obviously is following the church's beliefs and is acting accordingly. It's fair to think that the church needs to change its dogma regarding same-sex couples, but we all know its not even close to being there yet, so the cost of otherwise positive society change is the occassional story like this one.

I just don't get the outrage. It's a sad story, but not one to get bent out of shape on.

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I'm not outraged. I just think it's f*cking stupid, but par for the course when it comes to religous groups. -- nm - JaxSean Feb 18, 10:00
it's disappointing that they're holding the well-being of children hostage to their own sense of moral self-righteousness. -- nm - znufrii Feb 18, 09:56
here's the thing ... Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors. Why should the Archdiocese penalized those they see as sinners? - loosilu Feb 18, 09:52 28
- "Not in keeping with Christian teaching" is perhaps the funniest thing I've read in a long long time. - Cuzzin Todd Feb 18, 09:57
- Unless I've missed a recent statement by the Pope changing the church's position on homosexuals, he is likely acting... - Name Withheld By Request Feb 18, 09:55 14
  - that doesn't make it right, jsut because they're acting in a manner consistent with their beliefs. -- nm - znufrii Feb 18, 09:58 13
    - er, that doesn't make sense. -- nm - loosilu Feb 18, 09:59 9
      - his argument is essentially that people shouldn't be outraged at an organization making a decision in line with its stated beliefs. - znufrii Feb 18, 10:02 8
        
        you expect them to go along with your beliefs because yours are objectively right? -- nm - loosilu Feb 18, 10:03 7
        
        I think he expects his outrage to be shared instead of pooh-poohed. -- nm - mara Feb 18, 10:05 1
        
        not chared, necessarily, just validated. -- nm - znufrii Feb 18, 10:19
        
        of course not. - znufrii Feb 18, 10:05 4
        
        hmmm. I guess I'm conflicted. - loosilu Feb 18, 10:09 3
        
        Being gay is wrong in Catholic teaching, so it's not just about putting kids in foster care. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 18, 10:24
        
        Their conflict is that they (the church) would be "forced" to allow same-sex parents to foster kids. - JaxSean Feb 18, 10:19 1
        
        I agree that it's stupid. -- nm - loosilu Feb 18, 10:20
    - Should the government be able to force them to? I think no. -- nm - TWuG Feb 18, 09:58 2
      - They (religious orgs) get special treatment from the government. To keep that treatment, why shouldn't the government be able to make demands? -- nm - Beryllium Feb 18, 10:08 1
        
        (think of the government as being the mafia in this hypothetical ... :) ) -- nm - Beryllium Feb 18, 10:08
- From the Church's perspective, putting kids into same-sex homes is "the price" they think is too high. - TWuG Feb 18, 09:55
- Hanging out with prostitues is different from allowing them (or any other people seen as heinous sinners) to adopt children. -- nm - mara Feb 18, 09:53 10
  - I thought we were talking about foster parents. -- nm - loosilu Feb 18, 09:55 7
    - Okay, allowing them to foster children. -- nm - mara Feb 18, 09:56
    - gay foster parents = seen as heinous sinners -- nm - Beryllium Feb 18, 09:55 5
      - I guess they believe it does harm to the kids. -- nm - loosilu Feb 18, 09:56 4
        
        Yes, I thought they were rather clear about this over the past, oh, 1600 years? -- nm - Beryllium Feb 18, 09:58 3
        
        Yeah, the only people who can harm children are the priests...they've been quite clear on that. - Will Hunting Feb 18, 09:59 2
        
        stay classy, catholicism. heheh -- nm - Beryllium Feb 18, 10:00 1
        
        (Of course, I'm just assuming it's catholic. Who knows, I could be wrong ...) -- nm - Beryllium Feb 18, 10:01
  - oh, go hang out with prostitutes. -- nm - prayformojo Feb 18, 09:54
  - So I guess they're playing by "it takes one to know one" rules? -- nm - Beryllium Feb 18, 09:54

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