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In response to "only if they want to try for a record loss. -- nm" by Reagen

Is there ever a non-desperation (like non final minute or so) situation where goalies are pulled?

Posted by musubi Feb 26 '10, 13:23

I mean, not that I'd advocate it, but say it was 3-0 midway through the third? If odds are you're gonna lose anyway....

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sometimes at the final five seconds of a period when the faceoff is in the other zone, but not in general no - Reagen Feb 26, 13:27 1
- Your IM is what I'm talking about. Did the strategy "fail" or just "not succeed"? If you get my meaning. - musubi Feb 26, 13:34
I've seen it tried with around 5 minutes left in a game, team down by 3, maybe with a powerplay in a must win game. - Subversive - remembering Tommy Salo Feb 26, 13:26
no... 3-0 isn't that much of a deficit. pulling your goalie midway is forfeiting the game -- nm - Guy Feb 26, 13:25 9
- I know very, very, little about hockey, but I'm pretty sure 3-0 miday through the third is pretty daunting a differential. - musubi Feb 26, 13:27 8
  - when you're pulling the goalie, you need to maintain posession for basically the whole time. You can do that for maybe 2 minutes but there's no chance - Reagen Feb 26, 13:29 4
    - Yeah, but I'm just thinking there has to be a game theory equilibrium situation, where in *rare* situations, where you have almost nothing to lose - musubi Feb 26, 13:31 3
      - As I said below, I could see it for a short burst. Maybe catch them off guard. But doing it for an extended period is suicide. -- nm - pmb Feb 26, 13:32 2
        
        Well, temporarily was what I was thinking about, not necessarily for the rest of the game. But as a mental excercise it still applies. (nm) - musubi Feb 26, 13:35
        
        yeah... i could see this. its unconventional, but not crazy, especially if the other team looked gassed or your team had momentum -- nm - Guy Feb 26, 13:34
  - its extremely exhausting for the players to keep the puck in the offensives zone when their goalie is pulled - Guy Feb 26, 13:29 2
    - Yes, but the proposal was for the last minute or so of the 2nd period. -- nm - pmb Feb 26, 13:30 1
      - Whoops. I read that wrong. Carry on. -- nm - pmb Feb 26, 13:30
Probably makes sense. It's like an onside kick in the third quarter. But that could never work, right? -- nm - pmb Feb 26, 13:24 3
- You score far less than you recover an onsides kick; and the penalty for both are equally unbalanced. - Will Hunting Feb 26, 13:26 2
  - The two acts clearly aren't *equivalent* but the strategy behind them share parallels. - musubi Feb 26, 13:29
  - But I could still see it down 3-0 with a minute left in the period and the puck in their end. Yes, it's a risk, but the increased odds of scoring may - pmb Feb 26, 13:28
Not counting the extended possessions prior to a delayed penalty? -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 26, 13:24
not including those weird penalty situations, that is. (nm) - musubi Feb 26, 13:23

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