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In response to
"
it's the fact that you don't stop that makes it = 1 and makes it not rounding. -- nm
"
by
Reagen
at some pont it has to stop
Posted by
Danedukenuuk
Mar 5 '10, 13:25
that point is called rounding up in this case
if not the addition 1 + 0.333... would ever end
Responses:
I think you may be missing something about the concept of infinity. -- nm
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mara
Mar 5, 13:26
8
i doubt that ! -- nm
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:31
6
"At some point, infinity has to stop" is what it sounded like you were saying. -- nm
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mara
Mar 5, 13:32
5
not infinity but the way we represent infinity :)
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:33
4
The way we, humans, represent infinity in our limited physical capabilities is not important in mathematics -- nm
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:42
3
no??? ask Reagan about that
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:44
2
We don't need to calculate it, we (human beings) invented the damn thing! And we decided that 0.999... is the same as 1 -- nm
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:48
1
thats my point exactly
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 14:10
Exactly. People are trying to express infinity in a way they can physically understand
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:29
that's what ... is for, to save us time.
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Reagen
Mar 5, 13:26
20
exactly
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:30
18
You're right that it's a tool, and the *...* is a tool used to write 1/3 for instance in decimal number
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:34
7
so 1.333... + 1.333... +1.333... is 4?
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:37
6
Yes to your subject line, and "wtf?" to your IM -- nm
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:38
5
heh 3.999... -- nm
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:39
4
well, 3.9999..... = 4, so... -- nm
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Reagen
Mar 5, 13:40
3
circular logic
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:43
2
no, I'm saying that the two things you posted (once you had it correct) were identical. -- nm
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Reagen
Mar 5, 13:45
1
Which we've been saying all along
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:47
It's not about precision, or stopping to save us time. Infinity means you don't stop, ever.
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Reagen
Mar 5, 13:32
9
but since you CAN write an infinite number of "3" you would ever get to the 2nd factor of any calculation involving an infinite number
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:36
8
I assume you mean "can't" but here's the thing
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Reagen
Mar 5, 13:39
2
how do you know when you have not calculated it?
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:42
1
I'm going to wait for the English translation on this one. -- nm
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Reagen
Mar 5, 13:43
Uh, you CAN'T write an infinite number of 3s -- nm
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:37
4
exactly
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 13:38
2
I give up, it's impossible to change your mind
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Guigue
Mar 5, 13:40
1
oh no i never said that
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Danedukenuuk
Mar 5, 14:11
yes he can - don't try and stop him! -- nm
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Beryllium
Mar 5, 13:38
or maybe we could just help JD find out what the post limit is. -- nm
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The Exploding Dano
Mar 5, 13:28
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