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sitwap: Former Majority leader Tom Delay seems to think that unemployment benefits keep people from finding jobs. -- (link)

Posted by tRuMaN (aka Truman) Mar 8 '10, 07:51

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the man has obviously never collected unemployment if he thinks it is enough to pay the bills with. (rawstory.com)

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- are the prisons empty? are there no workhouses?? -- nm - 16 & pixie Mar 8, 07:56
- i dont agree with that. considering my unemployment benefit was less than the cost of my Cobra payment. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 07:55 32
  - well, currently COBRA is cheap, thanks to the stimulus package. -- nm - loosilu Mar 8, 07:58 2
    - maybe now, but it wasnt 6 years ago. -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 8, 07:58 1
      - I know. I'm just addressing the current situation. -- nm - loosilu Mar 8, 07:59
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    - what? -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 8, 07:58
  - But if you hadn't gotten even that, you would have looked even harder, is the point. -- nm - TFox Mar 8, 07:56 26
    - Nope. -- nm - loosilu Mar 8, 07:58
    - umm, no. not getting unemployment benefits would not have changed how hard i looked for a job. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 07:58 24
      - Not just you. People, in general. More people look for work if there is no free money then do when there is free money. -- nm - TFox Mar 8, 07:58 23
        
        i just dont see it. if you need money to pay bills, you arent gonna not try to find a job when you are getting 1/3 or less of what you made. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:00 10
        
        Let's assume 100 people lose their jobs, and go to the office for benefits, and they are told they can get $800/month. - TFox Mar 8, 08:03 5
        
        so, screw the 95% who'd look for work anyway, for the sake of 3% who wouldn't? -- nm - znufrii Mar 8, 08:12 1
        
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        $800 a month? I got like $450 a month from kansas. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:05 2
        
        but you just said it. you didn't take a job, because you had benefits. if you hadn't had those benefits, you would have worked faster. - TFox Mar 8, 08:06 1
        
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        and you and tfox are arguing a policy question without taking into account current economic times. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:03 2
        
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        sorry, economical studies, whatever you want to call the data that says people dont rush out to find a job. -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:06
        
        Yes. It's not as though economists haven't looked at this issue before. -- nm - Roger More Mar 8, 08:00
        
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        you can look all you want. if the work isn't there to be had, you're not going to find sh!t. -- nm - znufrii Mar 8, 07:59 9
        
        That is assuredly true, though not the same point. -- nm - TFox Mar 8, 08:00 8
        
        boiling it down to black and white, the thrust of the argument is to blame a person's unemployment on a personal moral failing, sloth in this case. - znufrii Mar 8, 08:04 4
        
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        nah, you're okay. I was basing more on the implications of the original DeLay statement - znufrii Mar 8, 08:14
        
        There is a trade-off between providing a social safety net (which I think everyone here agree is a worthy thing) and providing the right incentives - Roger More Mar 8, 08:09
        
        there's my buddy znufrii. i missed you! -- nm - TFox Mar 8, 08:06
        
        yes actually it is. if the discussion was bunning holding up the bill to extend benefits, and a justification for that was - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:03
        
        I think what he's saying is, sometimes you *can't* look harder for a job -- nm - loosilu Mar 8, 08:01 1
        
        sometimes, sure. but you know, the world isn't out of open jobs yet. it really isn't. - TFox Mar 8, 08:05
- I dunno about other states, but in VA what they pay is pathetic. -- nm - loosilu Mar 8, 07:54
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