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In response to "i dont agree with that. considering my unemployment benefit was less than the cost of my Cobra payment." by tRuMaN

But if you hadn't gotten even that, you would have looked even harder, is the point. -- nm

Posted by TFox Mar 8 '10, 07:56

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Nope. -- nm - loosilu Mar 8, 07:58
umm, no. not getting unemployment benefits would not have changed how hard i looked for a job. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 07:58 24
- Not just you. People, in general. More people look for work if there is no free money then do when there is free money. -- nm - TFox Mar 8, 07:58 23
  - i just dont see it. if you need money to pay bills, you arent gonna not try to find a job when you are getting 1/3 or less of what you made. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:00 10
    - Let's assume 100 people lose their jobs, and go to the office for benefits, and they are told they can get $800/month. - TFox Mar 8, 08:03 5
      - so, screw the 95% who'd look for work anyway, for the sake of 3% who wouldn't? -- nm - znufrii Mar 8, 08:12 1
        
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      - $800 a month? I got like $450 a month from kansas. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:05 2
        
        but you just said it. you didn't take a job, because you had benefits. if you hadn't had those benefits, you would have worked faster. - TFox Mar 8, 08:06 1
        
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      - and you and tfox are arguing a policy question without taking into account current economic times. - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:03 2
        
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        sorry, economical studies, whatever you want to call the data that says people dont rush out to find a job. -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:06
  - Yes. It's not as though economists haven't looked at this issue before. -- nm - Roger More Mar 8, 08:00
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  - you can look all you want. if the work isn't there to be had, you're not going to find sh!t. -- nm - znufrii Mar 8, 07:59 9
    - That is assuredly true, though not the same point. -- nm - TFox Mar 8, 08:00 8
      - boiling it down to black and white, the thrust of the argument is to blame a person's unemployment on a personal moral failing, sloth in this case. - znufrii Mar 8, 08:04 4
        
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        nah, you're okay. I was basing more on the implications of the original DeLay statement - znufrii Mar 8, 08:14
        
        There is a trade-off between providing a social safety net (which I think everyone here agree is a worthy thing) and providing the right incentives - Roger More Mar 8, 08:09
        
        there's my buddy znufrii. i missed you! -- nm - TFox Mar 8, 08:06
      - yes actually it is. if the discussion was bunning holding up the bill to extend benefits, and a justification for that was - tRuMaN Mar 8, 08:03
      - I think what he's saying is, sometimes you *can't* look harder for a job -- nm - loosilu Mar 8, 08:01 1
        
        sometimes, sure. but you know, the world isn't out of open jobs yet. it really isn't. - TFox Mar 8, 08:05

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