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One of the strongest arguments against there even being a god is the whole "sin now, punish later" aspect. It's like a parent who tells his kid

Posted by TWuG Mar 11 '10, 13:24

here are the rules. When you turn 21 I'll punish you for every infraction. And then abandons the kid.

God is a mean, nasty, petulant son of a bitch if he exists because he takes an extreme hands-off approach to parenting and then punishes his kids for doing wrong decades after they do it. Unless they're really really sorry and kiss his ass.

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i just finished Horns. I liked his point that God and Devil are really on the same side. They both like torturing sinners. - Andie Mar 11, 13:36 4
- satan is an creation of god -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 11, 13:37 3
  - both are creations of man. -- nm - amanda Mar 11, 13:41 2
    - not according to gods words - Danedukenuuk Mar 11, 13:45
    - "Man has created God in his own image. After his own likeness has he created Him." -- nm - znufrii Mar 11, 13:42
thats logic and against the teachings of the church your dammed for eternaty -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 11, 13:31 3
- Oh, the masturbation, porn, cursing, and atheism have already taken care of that. And I vote Democrat, too. - TWuG Mar 11, 13:37 2
  - I will never forget the reaction at confirmation retreat when the priest said that first one was a sin. Every guy's reaction was "oh crap" -- nm - MDH Mar 11, 13:38
  - yep you're basically allready fucked might as well start sinning more - Danedukenuuk Mar 11, 13:38
It certainly is that for people that reject God (the parent) and leave and go do whatever they want. For those that talk with their parents daily and - oblique Mar 11, 13:29 21
- A lot certainly depends on your definition of "punish" the traditional idea of "Hell" really isn't well supported in the Bible. - Ender Mar 11, 13:49
- Yeah, okay, if you're actually hearing God speak to you you might want to get that checked out. - TWuG Mar 11, 13:35 15
  - I firmly believe that all those little "thoughts" that pop into our heads daily are God speaking to our souls. I can't explain it all in specifics - oblique Mar 11, 13:39 5
    - I'm going to give you points on staying calm, rational and on-point in the face of my post. - TWuG Mar 11, 13:44
    - so how does that resound with "free will" ???? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 11, 13:42 3
      - I'm free to ignore or listen -- nm - oblique Mar 11, 13:43 2
        
        so listen to god takes away your free will? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 11, 13:45 1
        
        Growing up, your parents told you lots of stuff, right? Did listening to them take away your free will? -- nm - Ender Mar 11, 13:50
  - Dude, shut the fuck up. -- nm - TFox Mar 11, 13:36 8
    - No. If you all can talk about how great and wonderful God is I can share my feelings on the farce I think it all is. -- nm - TWuG Mar 11, 13:38 7
      - I am shocked, *shocked* I say, that a discussion of religion ended up this way. (nm) - musubi Mar 11, 13:39 5
        
        Yeah, I'm in a pissy mood today. I should've walked away. -- nm - TWuG Mar 11, 13:41 4
        
        No no no, take a shit on what people believe to make yourself feel better. It's fun to watch. -- nm - TFox Mar 11, 13:42 3
        
        When I see what you believe used to punish those who don't believe and to protect those who do, but do bad, I get pissy. - TWuG Mar 11, 13:47
        
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        Dude. He just said he should have walked away. - musubi Mar 11, 13:44
      - You're awesome. -- nm - TFox Mar 11, 13:39
- kilbo, it's time to move out of your parent's basement and grow up. You can do it on your own! -- nm - JaxSean Mar 11, 13:30 3
  - But there's free cable and internet! -- nm - Qale Mar 11, 13:32 2
    - Comast is the debil. -- nm - JaxSean Mar 11, 13:34 1
      - No argument there. I think we may have found our first universal religious truth. -- nm - Qale Mar 11, 13:36
I never got this from church...what I got was if you sin, you will be punished in other ways....like karma....AND you won't get into heaven. -- nm - CrankYanker Mar 11, 13:28 2
- Buddist don't go to heaven but to Nirvana - Danedukenuuk Mar 11, 13:33
- Ah, the Bhudditarians. -- nm - Reagen Mar 11, 13:29
well, it certainly points out the flaws in the current popular descriptions of him, anyway... -- nm - znufrii Mar 11, 13:28
I won't say if I agree or disagree, but I certainly lol'd. -- nm - Qale Mar 11, 13:25
"He's an angry elf." -- nm - TFox Mar 11, 13:25

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