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y'all, I need a 1TB external hard drive. you know those new HDs that don't take power cords? do they come in 1TB? - amanda Mar 12, 08:53 3
- I saw one from Lacie. Those are usually made with smalle HDs (for laptop computers) and are a little slower. If you have to copy almost 1 TB, I think - Guigue Mar 12, 08:57
- yes. Seagate makes a Free Agent Go in 1TB -- nm - oblique Mar 12, 08:56
- like this? -- (link) - tRuMaN Mar 12, 08:55
Just curious: Those who are against random traffic stops, are you for or against random drug testing in sports, for pilots, etc. -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:50 12
- Yes, because the upside benefits greatly exceed the downside costs. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 08:58
- Very much against it. -- nm - Don Homer Mar 12, 08:58
- I would say that it's up to the employer as to whether they test or not and I'm okay with that. - Callisto Mar 12, 08:57
- you DON'T have ramdom traffic "razzia" heaven -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 12, 08:57
- I get random tests at my job. It goes with the terriroty. - groiny Mar 12, 08:52 7
  - you have the choice to not drive also. -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:54 6
    - this is not really true. - groiny Mar 12, 08:55 5
      - I bet there's more than one person on ST who isn't legally allowed to drive, because of a medical condition. So ... you're wrong. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:56 4
        
        then they would not have a drivers license then? - groiny Mar 12, 08:58 2
        
        You don't need a license to drink water. Your circular argument is flawed. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:58 1
        
        huh? If you can't drive, why would you be impacted by a random stop? - groiny Mar 12, 09:00
        
        (okay, I suppose I could lose that bet. It's possible. It's just that every third person I meet online seems to have epilepsy ...) -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:57
Also, I view a roadblock as being significantly different than a random stop. Am I wrong to think that way? -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:50 5
- if you want me to stop for 10 seconds at a roadblock to see if my speech is slurred, I am fien with that - groiny Mar 12, 08:52 2
  - they only do that if you slur, have bloodshot eyes, and have other signs of having been drinking. They don't waste time on testing those who do not ap - zork Mar 12, 08:54 1
    - well, that's the point of the law being discussed. To waste that time with random checks. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:54
- totally different. everyone gets stopped at a roadblock. -- nm - amanda Mar 12, 08:51 1
  - Exactly. Even if they are allowing some cars through while others are being processed, it's about making it random, not targetted. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 08:54
sitwap: $440 Dell Vostro 220S 2.93Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 w/VT, 2GB DDR2, 320GB HD, DVD+/-RW DL, Win 7 Home Prem, 21.5" 1080p LCD monitor -- (link) - tRuMaN Mar 12, 08:45 8
- I'm tired of viruses taking out every desk top I get - I'm going Mac -- nm - Epiphany Mar 12, 08:50 7
  - I have once gotten a virus on my computer. (That I'm aware of.) It must be my lack of pr0n surfing or something. -- nm - JaxSean Mar 12, 08:51 5
    - Do you use Internet Explorer? -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:52 4
      - No, never. -- nm - JaxSean Mar 12, 08:54 3
        
        Nice. As a tip, though: You may want to avoid viewing PDF files for the time being, until Adobe patches their stuff. - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:56 2
        
        I also rarely download anything, especially attachments. I do view .pdf's in Gmail's viewer sporadically. - JaxSean Mar 12, 08:58 1
        
        prezactly. :) -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:59
  - You need to porn more selectively -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:51
So, Garrison Keillor can apparently talk nonstop for 2 hours, 20 minutes without even needing a sip of water. - TFox Mar 12, 08:43
Ika.comers: check your messages. -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:35 1
- i am sorta swamped at work today, but if you need my 300 troops - tRuMaN Mar 12, 08:47
BN: Gunshots and injuries at Edmonton car dealership -- (link) - Beaker Mar 12, 08:32 10
- "Fix my accelerator NOW" -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:36
- Two women dead, another badly injured after shooting in Belleville Ont -- (link) - Beaker Mar 12, 08:32 7
  - Andie is busy on her first day off -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:34
  - !!!!! that's my hometown (my mom lives there.) that's huge news. -- nm - Andie Mar 12, 08:34 5
    - after the news about the CFB Trenton Base commander (Trenton is right next to Belleville) it's like a whole new place. - Andie Mar 12, 08:36 4
      - You must be so weirded out by all this. - zork Mar 12, 08:37 3
        
        a little. but it's more just utterly surprising than w -- nm - Andie Mar 12, 08:38 2
        
        "weird." - Andie Mar 12, 08:38 1
        
        good luck - zork Mar 12, 08:40
- Don't look at me..... nm -- nm - God Mar 12, 08:32
Love Letters response to Floating and Confused on the Cape: - Diva Mar 12, 08:23 3
- heh, I love the last sentence. -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:30 2
  - me too - dodge the bullet girl -- nm - Epiphany Mar 12, 08:46 1
    - *nodding* She needs to go find herself a nice doorman. -- nm - Diva Mar 12, 08:51
Canada considering instituting random roadside tests for drunk drivers -- (link) - Beaker Mar 12, 08:19 43
- they have that here, and they catch an unbelievable amount of people. -- nm - mafic Mar 12, 08:23 37
  - We have it. Gives the police a good excuse to hassle anyone they want. - Spawn Mar 12, 08:24 36
    - Long as it stops the drunk drivers I'm all for it. Especially if they add to the penalties for doing it -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:26 34
      - probably untilt hey pull you over and cause you to be late for something. - groiny Mar 12, 08:27 33
        
        I'd trade a small percent chance I am late for something for identifying and stopping drunk drivers any day of the week. -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:29 32
        
        By that logic, the police should be able to knock on your door and enter it to search for grow ops without warrent. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 08:36 7
        
        ahhhh! it's a slippery slope! - mafic Mar 12, 08:58 1
        
        Considering that likely 90% of current Canadian law comes through incrementalism, how can someone pretend that slippery slopes don't happen? - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:02
        
        not the same thing. a grow-op house does not jump out and fall on people walking past it. -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:39
        
        I have yet to see a grow op drive down the street... -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:38 3
        
        The point is that if you are willing to allow the police to do random stops to prevent criminal activity and protect people, that it's an easy.... - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 08:45 2
        
        make it easy, stop selling alcohol. nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:46 1
        
        I could live with that. -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:49
        
        I guess I do not want to be harassed when I am doing nothing wrong. nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:32 23
        
        This isn't giving them the power to randomly stop people, it's giving them the power to randomly breathalyze people who are already stopped. - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:39 5
        
        but, by your IM you are basically anti-breathalyzer, not random spot checks. -- nm - Andie Mar 12, 08:41 1
        
        I'm pro-Counterattack, if you want to put it that way. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:42
        
        about your last point, the blood test back at the station would give the proper reading. -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:41 2
        
        so now they can haul my sober ass to the station and give me a blood test? nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:42 1
        
        only if you blow over on the breathalyzer. -- nm - Andie Mar 12, 08:44
        
        do you have spot checks now? we have the RIDE program. - Andie Mar 12, 08:33 1
        
        I have no problem with that. - groiny Mar 12, 08:35
        
        I wonder how they will get around our Charter to actually be able to do it and have it stand up in court. -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:33
        
        Families of those killed by drunk drivers feel differently. I hope nobody here ever has to go through that. -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:33 13
        
        Yes, but when setting laws for all of society, you have to weigh the costs over the whole country and not the individual victims of crime. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 08:38
        
        I am not unsympathetic to that, but is pulling me over going to bring them back? nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:35 11
        
        no but it will remove someone from a car before it happens -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:38 10
        
        I would argue that current drunk driving laws are punitive enough in Canada, that this change would have marginal effects as a deterent. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 08:40 1
        
        true, I hope they make the penalties much much much tougher as part of this (or even instead of in fact) -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:40
        
        the % of people you are going to stop has to be a very low %. - groiny Mar 12, 08:39 7
        
        All I care about is saving lives. Driving is a priviledge not a right. -- nm - zork Mar 12, 08:43 6
        
        Then ignore drunk driver and just ban cars. Less than 1,000/year die in Canada from alcohol related accidents. Ten times more "regular" ones. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 08:50
        
        If I pass the driving test, it is a right that I have earned. nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:44 4
        
        The test merely certifies that you have many of the skills required to not be a menace on the roads. - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:45 3
        
        right, but as a responsible driver, I should not have to be hassled by random stops. nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:47 2
        
        *THIS LAW IS NOT ABOUT RANDOM STOPS*. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:48 1
        
        if I have to get out of my car and breathe into a tube - groiny Mar 12, 08:50
    - yup, smells of bullshit to me. nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:25
- is texting while driving there illegal? nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:20 4
  - talking on a phone you have to hold, or texting is illegal here -- nm - Andie Mar 12, 08:31
  - alot of Provinces have banned it. -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:22
  - In BC it is -- nm - Beryllium (iPhone) Mar 12, 08:22 1
    - cell phone use while driving here is supposed to be illegal.... - groiny Mar 12, 08:23
The office spoils discussion - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:08
I missed most of the religion talk, but religion seems like insurance or maybe a protection racket. - Spawn Mar 12, 08:08 58
- You don't have to do anything to "be in". There is no requirement for good works, etc. to earn your way - oblique Mar 12, 08:24 42
  - except not sin, or at least confess your sins -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 12, 08:29
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    - Generally speaking, we're all sinners in one way or another. God welcomes all of us despite our sin - oblique Mar 12, 08:29 24
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        Here's how I tend to define sin, and let me know if it helps: sin is more broadly defined than a list of actions. - TFox Mar 12, 08:38 4
        
        very interesting. thank you for sharing that. -- nm - oblique Mar 12, 08:44 1
        
        no prob. i mean, really, what it boils down to for me is, there are only two entities that know when any one person is sinning: that person and God. - TFox Mar 12, 08:52
        
        the closest parallel to an idea of "sin" in my worldview... - znufrii Mar 12, 08:42
        
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        Like I said, it is a part of my faith and belief that I still struggle to understand - oblique Mar 12, 08:34 15
        
        The issue for many is that homosexuality, even if not railed against, is still seen as a failure. There is judgement inherent in that label. -- nm - TWuG Mar 12, 08:39 14
        
        Not any more than I am a failure as a liar or a gossip or when I yell at my kids or am selfish or steal Netflix movies or whatever - oblique Mar 12, 08:43 13
        
        Everything you just listed is something you've chosen to do. People don't choose to be gay. - TWuG Mar 12, 08:45 12
        
        People choose their actions, not their natural desires. I may desire to have lots of sex with lots of women - oblique Mar 12, 08:50 11
        
        So, be gay, just don't have gay sex? Would gay sex be okay in a gay marriage? - TWuG Mar 12, 08:53 7
        
        He flat out said the opposite of this under the word "DISCLAIMER" in all caps. fwiw. -- nm - TFox Mar 12, 08:54 6
        
        "It is simply one example of how our naturla inclinations don't run in line with God." I.E. being gay=failure to God. -- nm - TWuG Mar 12, 08:57 5
        
        but since everyone is set up to fail, it's not like gay people are unique in that regard... -- nm - znufrii Mar 12, 08:58 3
        
        Sure. I just don't know that I can accept the denouncement of relationships that are obviously based in love for another human being - oblique Mar 12, 08:59 1
        
        just trying to understand this - what relationship is being denounced? and gay relationships/marriages are based in love just like hetero ones. - Andei Mar 12, 09:13
        
        I'm set up to want to jam every chick on Chuck. If I didn't want to jam them, it would be easier not to sin, for sure. - TFox Mar 12, 08:59
        
        I have not made up my mind on the subject. I see the rationale for what you say, I simply don't know if I accept it for all the reasons you give as - oblique Mar 12, 08:58
        
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        I have not made up my mind on the subject (as I've said) - oblique Mar 12, 08:55 1
        
        (who saw that one coming?) - TFox Mar 12, 08:56
        
        yes and no - Danedukenuuk Mar 12, 08:34 1
        
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  - You have to do quite a lot to be "in". - Spawn Mar 12, 08:26 13
    - Nope. Faith is the only requirement God puts on us (it's hard to be in a relationship with God if you don't have faith in him) - oblique Mar 12, 08:28 12
      - not not really hating god all you'r life gives you a relationship with god too - Danedukenuuk Mar 12, 08:33
      - And of course, that whole "do not sin" part. -- nm - Spawn Mar 12, 08:28 10
        
        trust me, we *all* will fail at that over and over and over again -- nm - oblique Mar 12, 08:30
        
        no, you can "sin", you have have to apologize for it. nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:29 8
        
        if you'r a chatolic yes - Danedukenuuk Mar 12, 08:35
        
        But see, does he ever apologize for famine? Natural disasters? Cancer? - Spawn Mar 12, 08:30 6
        
        This is where the argument went off the rails yesterday. - TWuG Mar 12, 08:31
        
        None of those are God's fault. They are part of the universe that he created that runs on a natural order, not by his whim from moment to moment -- nm - oblique Mar 12, 08:31 3
        
        and in the process, give us the opportunity to show the godly part of our own selves, through compassionate works for others. -- nm - znufrii Mar 12, 08:32 2
        
        I would like to see the godly part of you stop an eathquake, please. -- nm - Spawn Mar 12, 08:47 1
        
        now you're just being silly. -- nm - znufrii Mar 12, 08:49
        
        someone has to thin the herd. nm -- nm - groiny Mar 12, 08:31
  - in the christian belif system that is right? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 12, 08:25
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  - my last trip to Chruch did not go well.... - groiny Mar 12, 08:18 4
    - I love that our Pastor says, every Sunday, "If you're a guest here, we don't want you to put anything in the offering plate" -- nm - oblique Mar 12, 08:25 3
      - seriously, I damn near got up and walked out. - groiny Mar 12, 08:26 2
        
        Personally - oblique Mar 12, 08:32 1
        
        see, it is a conflict. It is a good school, it is the church I have the issue with. - groiny Mar 12, 08:34
- And while it certainly was not clear yesterday, I am mostly anti-religion, but indifferent to a general belief in a god. - TWuG Mar 12, 08:11 6
  - Exactly. Faith is a great thing. A belief that your faith gives you the power/authority to do things against others... not so much. -- nm - Spawn Mar 12, 08:14 5
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    - which does not universally apply to all religions, or members of particular religions. -- nm - TFox Mar 12, 08:16 2
      - at some point it does - Danedukenuuk Mar 12, 08:23
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    - very well put. -- nm - znufrii Mar 12, 08:15
- That's certainly one of the more accurate ways of looking at it. Some of the sects and cults have done positive things, though. - Beryllium Mar 12, 08:09 1
  - Yeah, I speak more for the, uh, "Leader". - Spawn Mar 12, 08:11
war. -- nm - Beaker Mar 12, 08:06
*kicks Spawn's ass* -- nm - oblique Mar 12, 08:05

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