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Like I said, it is a part of my faith and belief that I still struggle to understand

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Mar 12 '10, 08:34

I don't know the answer

I also know that no matter what the answer, there is love and understanding from God in our failures, even those that we cannot overcome. And you won't find me judging anyone on the basis of those failures.

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The issue for many is that homosexuality, even if not railed against, is still seen as a failure. There is judgement inherent in that label. -- nm - TWuG Mar 12, 08:39 14
- Not any more than I am a failure as a liar or a gossip or when I yell at my kids or am selfish or steal Netflix movies or whatever - oblique Mar 12, 08:43 13
  - Everything you just listed is something you've chosen to do. People don't choose to be gay. - TWuG Mar 12, 08:45 12
    - People choose their actions, not their natural desires. I may desire to have lots of sex with lots of women - oblique Mar 12, 08:50 11
      - So, be gay, just don't have gay sex? Would gay sex be okay in a gay marriage? - TWuG Mar 12, 08:53 7
        
        He flat out said the opposite of this under the word "DISCLAIMER" in all caps. fwiw. -- nm - TFox Mar 12, 08:54 6
        
        "It is simply one example of how our naturla inclinations don't run in line with God." I.E. being gay=failure to God. -- nm - TWuG Mar 12, 08:57 5
        
        but since everyone is set up to fail, it's not like gay people are unique in that regard... -- nm - znufrii Mar 12, 08:58 3
        
        Sure. I just don't know that I can accept the denouncement of relationships that are obviously based in love for another human being - oblique Mar 12, 08:59 1
        
        just trying to understand this - what relationship is being denounced? and gay relationships/marriages are based in love just like hetero ones. - Andei Mar 12, 09:13
        
        I'm set up to want to jam every chick on Chuck. If I didn't want to jam them, it would be easier not to sin, for sure. - TFox Mar 12, 08:59
        
        I have not made up my mind on the subject. I see the rationale for what you say, I simply don't know if I accept it for all the reasons you give as - oblique Mar 12, 08:58
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        I have not made up my mind on the subject (as I've said) - oblique Mar 12, 08:55 1
        
        (who saw that one coming?) - TFox Mar 12, 08:56

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