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NWBR: The difference between random traffic stops and your hypothetical grow op search is that the traffic stop is happening on public property

Posted by Reagen (aka Reagen) Mar 12 '10, 09:10

ie the roads, where as a grow op search would have to enter private property to do so.

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Okay, but let's look at the situation being discussed. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:19 28
- 30 minutes? A breathlyser test doesn't take that long. And (in Australia) you can always choose to submit to another test (a blood test) at the police - Roger More Mar 12, 09:29 10
  - From start of stop to driving off, yes, it does. (I've taken two in my life.) (Zeros across the board on both.) -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:30 9
    - were you talking belligerently to them? - zork Mar 12, 09:35 2
      - No. This is one you have to trust me on, but I am always respectful of cops and really polite. "More flies with honey..." kinda thing. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:38
      - It's NWBR. He's smooth. I'm sure he was perfectly loquacious. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:36
    - dude, I don't know what tech they have in manitoba, but in the rest of the world a breatho takes ~10 seconds. -- nm - mafic Mar 12, 09:32 5
      - The actual blowing, yes. But I'm talking about start to stop and the full process. Each time, it was about a half-hour detention. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:36 2
        
        that's just the cop being a dick. last one I did took less than a minute, and they bring the breatho to you. -- nm - mafic Mar 12, 09:38 1
        
        Nope. Both times it was, "Please get out of the car sir and come with me." I was in the passenger seat of the cruiser. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:40
      - the cop probably took his sweet-ass time -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:33
      - They make you blow into a paper bag and then let a dog sniff it? -- nm - Roger More Mar 12, 09:33
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  - This is why they let people drive around with busted tail lights :) So they have a legitimate reason to check whenever they want. - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:23 1
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- *THIS IS NOT WHAT THE LAW IS ABOUT*. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:20 13
  - Yes it is Bery. It's about asking me to take a breathalyzer when I present no evidence of drunk behaviour. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:23 12
    - the cops won't be allowed to pull you over for no reason and breatho you. if you're at a roadblock, or pulled over for something else, they can. -- nm - mafic Mar 12, 09:26 7
      - Okay, is the law *only* for checkstops? (I still oppose, but want to clarify.) My understanding was it would be in force during any stop. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:29 5
        
        any stop, but if not at a checkstop they still need a reason to pull you over. -- nm - mafic Mar 12, 09:34
        
        It sounds to me like the new law is a tool to use instead of the other traditional roadside tests of sobriety. - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:30 3
        
        The more I think about this, the more I think it's just about court charges being dismissed. Nothing at all to do with safety. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:34 2
        
        that and a lot of drunk people do get through the roadblocks by not appearing drunk. -- nm - mafic Mar 12, 09:39 1
        
        This I'm less convinced of. How many cases of a drunk driving accident occuring where the driver previously went through a stop? I have never... - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:44
      - thank you, that better explains what I was trying to say. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:27
    - No, the first paragraph of your post is absolutely wrong. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:24 3
      - Well, if I'm swerving, that can be evidence used to justify the breathalyzer. That's all I was trying to establish with that para. You are right... - Name Withheld By Request Mar 12, 09:27 1
        
        Yeah, I was just trying to say that this law doesn't give them the magic ability to pull you over for no reason. - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:29
      - (er, your post above your post. You know what I mean.) -- nm - Beryllium Mar 12, 09:24

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