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In response to "You wouldn't say "none is affected" so "are" is correct. -- nm" by TWuG

But you would say "none of the wheat is affected" -- nm

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Mar 15 '10, 08:17

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Since none doesn't have a singularity/plurality, you use the other word (students/wheat) tio determine the is/are - ty97 Mar 15, 08:20 5
- Oops, I forgot kilbo's undergrad degree.... -- nm - ty97 Mar 15, 08:22 4
  - Don't assume my English degree equates to me any official knowledge on this subject - oblique Mar 15, 08:23 3
    - an English degree is a license for other people to mock you when you make a grammatical error. -- nm - loosilu Mar 15, 08:56 1
      - pretty much :) -- nm - oblique Mar 15, 08:59
    - You speak English good. -- nm - Dano Mar 15, 08:36
*trades a wood and a brick* -- nm - TFox Mar 15, 08:19
Because you wouldn't say "the wheat are affected." You wouldn't say "the students is affected" either. -- nm - TWuG Mar 15, 08:19 8
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  - You wouldn't say "us is perfect" or "us are perfect" so go with what sounds best when none is involved. - TWuG Mar 15, 08:29 6
    - [deleted] 1
      - Interesting. It certainly follows that is would be correct because you'd use is in the "not one" and "no one" constructions. -- nm - TWuG Mar 15, 08:50
    - You'd say "we are perfect" though. Also, I'd say "Not one of the students is affected" but "None of the students are affected" - Roger More Mar 15, 08:32 3
      - "one is" "none are" -- nm - TWuG Mar 15, 08:34 1
        
        But "not one is". Yet "not one" = "none", which is kind of weird -- nm - Roger More Mar 15, 08:46
      - Because I'm right and Jack is wrong, that's why :) -- nm - oblique Mar 15, 08:34

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