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we all know that restaurant servers in most places make below minimum wage, right? they make 'servers wages.'

Posted by Andie (aka Andie) Apr 6 '10, 09:42

which is lower because the expectation is they will make the difference in tips.

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Yes, I'm aware. My food bill is already 15-20% higher. Just stop making me tack it on at the end. Pay the servers a real wage and - TWuG Apr 6, 09:44 35
- no, they just need to worry about you not going out to eat because all the meals start at $15 at Applebee's. -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 09:45 33
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  - All the meals ALREADY cost $15 when you add in tip. The tip may technically be voluntary, but it's as close to mandatory as it can be. - TWuG Apr 6, 09:47 31
    - if you stiff a waitress, you deserve whatever you get on the return trip, scrooge -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 09:48
    - Correct. But if the menu and commercials said $15, less people would go. see? -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 09:48 28
      - If the restaurant's that concerned, it can keep the menu prices the same and have an automatic 15% service charge in the fine print, or whatever -- nm - Roger More Apr 6, 09:49 22
        
        There's at least a couple of high-end restaurants here that started doing this a few years ago... - znufrii Apr 6, 09:51
        
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        I'm not so sure - you can attract consumers with low prices, and hope they don't calculate the full cost of what they're buying - Roger More Apr 6, 09:59 5
        
        (but I don't believe the restaurant doom-and-gloom scenario that TFox is suggesting - tipping is less of a big deal in Canada & uncommon in Australia - Roger More Apr 6, 10:00 2
        
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        it's built in to the prices in UK and Europe -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 10:02
        
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        and some will just say fuck it and shut their doors, because taking full risk on labor costs is suicide for a lot of places. -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 10:01
        
        Kid, confuse deez nuts. Will the restaurant business be less lucrative if this policy is changed? Yes. - TFox Apr 6, 09:53 3
        
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        Trust me, I get what I'm talking about. If you're somehow not taking my meaning from my posts, I apologize. - TFox Apr 6, 09:58 1
        
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        Even *after* an automatic 15-18% added onto the bill sometimes, you're still expected to add a bit more. wtf. -- nm - Hotkiss Apr 6, 09:50 9
        
        if the automatic gratuity is 15% (usually on a large party) and the service is outstanding, i have no problem bumping it up to 20% -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 09:52 7
        
        I can't tell you how many times tipping has deterred me from eating out at all. Eating out is not cheap, and you want me to pay an extra 20% on top of - Hotkiss Apr 6, 09:54 6
        
        Heh...on the other side of scale, I'm pretty sure that alcohol portion alone of my typical bill exceeds that . - JD Apr 6, 09:58
        
        that's what eating out *is*. it's going to cost more than eating at home, that's sort of the deal. -- nm - Andie Apr 6, 09:55 4
        
        that's why they call it "eating out" -- nm - David Mamet Apr 6, 09:56 2
        
        i thought this was going to be Roger More for some reason. - Andie Apr 6, 09:58 1
        
        Nope - it was obviously a desperate ploy for pixie to regain cred for his screenplay knowledge -- nm - Roger More Apr 6, 10:02
        
        Indeed. It's supposed to be a special/occasional thing, not a constant meal source. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 6, 09:56
        
        Well, the restaurant/waitstaff aren't going to pass up the opportunity for free money if they can get it. -- nm - Roger More Apr 6, 09:52
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      - It's the same psychology behind the $9.99 appeal. You'll end up spending more than $10 after tax(tip), just not on the onstart -- nm - Hotkiss Apr 6, 09:49
      - Because people are morons. Those people who balk at paying $15 are ALREADY paying $15. -- nm - TWuG Apr 6, 09:49 2
        
        not if they stiff the wait staff. profit! -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 09:50
        
        the morons are subsidizing the number of restaurants that can stay in business, no? -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 09:49
    - Yeah, I don't get the shell game. -- nm - Reagen Apr 6, 09:48
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(this isn't the case in Canada, AFAIK) -- nm - Reagen Apr 6, 09:43 4
- BC has an $8 minimum wage that can drop as low as $6 (I think) under certain conditions (such as it being a first job) -- nm - Beryllium Apr 6, 09:44 1
  - i'm surprised it's that low in BC, it just went to 10.25 here. i think this is a poll... -- nm - Andie Apr 6, 09:51
- it used to be. it may not be now. -- nm - Andie Apr 6, 09:44 1
  - Hmm, it looks like it is in Ontario. I stand corrected. -- nm - Reagen Apr 6, 09:45
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yeah, it's pretty shameful how little their employer is actually required to pay them... - znufrii Apr 6, 09:43
oh, c'mon. it's not like $2/hr is nothing. that's way more than some people in Africa make. -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 09:43 1
- costs them a hell of a lot less to live there, though. -- nm - loosilu Apr 6, 09:44
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we all know that restaurant servers in most places make below minimum wage, right? they make 'servers wages.'

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