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In response to "we all know that restaurant servers in most places make below minimum wage, right? they make 'servers wages.'" by Andie

Yes, I'm aware. My food bill is already 15-20% higher. Just stop making me tack it on at the end. Pay the servers a real wage and

Posted by TWuG Apr 6 '10, 09:44

figure that into your menu costs.

I'm still paying the same amount, but I don't have to worry about someone getting pissed because I wasn't grateful enough with my tip amount.

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no, they just need to worry about you not going out to eat because all the meals start at $15 at Applebee's. -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 09:45 33
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- All the meals ALREADY cost $15 when you add in tip. The tip may technically be voluntary, but it's as close to mandatory as it can be. - TWuG Apr 6, 09:47 31
  - if you stiff a waitress, you deserve whatever you get on the return trip, scrooge -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 09:48
  - Correct. But if the menu and commercials said $15, less people would go. see? -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 09:48 28
    - If the restaurant's that concerned, it can keep the menu prices the same and have an automatic 15% service charge in the fine print, or whatever -- nm - Roger More Apr 6, 09:49 22
      - There's at least a couple of high-end restaurants here that started doing this a few years ago... - znufrii Apr 6, 09:51
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        I'm not so sure - you can attract consumers with low prices, and hope they don't calculate the full cost of what they're buying - Roger More Apr 6, 09:59 5
        
        (but I don't believe the restaurant doom-and-gloom scenario that TFox is suggesting - tipping is less of a big deal in Canada & uncommon in Australia - Roger More Apr 6, 10:00 2
        
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        it's built in to the prices in UK and Europe -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 10:02
        
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        and some will just say fuck it and shut their doors, because taking full risk on labor costs is suicide for a lot of places. -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 10:01
        
        Kid, confuse deez nuts. Will the restaurant business be less lucrative if this policy is changed? Yes. - TFox Apr 6, 09:53 3
        
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        Trust me, I get what I'm talking about. If you're somehow not taking my meaning from my posts, I apologize. - TFox Apr 6, 09:58 1
        
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      - Even *after* an automatic 15-18% added onto the bill sometimes, you're still expected to add a bit more. wtf. -- nm - Hotkiss Apr 6, 09:50 9
        
        if the automatic gratuity is 15% (usually on a large party) and the service is outstanding, i have no problem bumping it up to 20% -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 09:52 7
        
        I can't tell you how many times tipping has deterred me from eating out at all. Eating out is not cheap, and you want me to pay an extra 20% on top of - Hotkiss Apr 6, 09:54 6
        
        Heh...on the other side of scale, I'm pretty sure that alcohol portion alone of my typical bill exceeds that . - JD Apr 6, 09:58
        
        that's what eating out *is*. it's going to cost more than eating at home, that's sort of the deal. -- nm - Andie Apr 6, 09:55 4
        
        that's why they call it "eating out" -- nm - David Mamet Apr 6, 09:56 2
        
        i thought this was going to be Roger More for some reason. - Andie Apr 6, 09:58 1
        
        Nope - it was obviously a desperate ploy for pixie to regain cred for his screenplay knowledge -- nm - Roger More Apr 6, 10:02
        
        Indeed. It's supposed to be a special/occasional thing, not a constant meal source. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 6, 09:56
        
        Well, the restaurant/waitstaff aren't going to pass up the opportunity for free money if they can get it. -- nm - Roger More Apr 6, 09:52
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    - It's the same psychology behind the $9.99 appeal. You'll end up spending more than $10 after tax(tip), just not on the onstart -- nm - Hotkiss Apr 6, 09:49
    - Because people are morons. Those people who balk at paying $15 are ALREADY paying $15. -- nm - TWuG Apr 6, 09:49 2
      - not if they stiff the wait staff. profit! -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 6, 09:50
      - the morons are subsidizing the number of restaurants that can stay in business, no? -- nm - TFox Apr 6, 09:49
  - Yeah, I don't get the shell game. -- nm - Reagen Apr 6, 09:48
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