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i ask roughly 2 questions about baseball every year. here's one of them. it's about the infield fly rule

Posted by prayformojo (aka mayhem) Apr 8 '10, 12:58

this only applies when there are less than 2 outs, and there would be a force out at 3rd or home, right?

which means that it doesn't apply if the only base runner is on 1st. correct?

why?

it seems arbitrary that it doesn't apply in that case.

Responses:

no, the infield fly rule is - groiny Apr 8, 13:11 18
- this game is harder than "What is Burn Notice?" -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 8, 13:14
- you're saying that the rule is in effect if there's only a runner on 1st? -- nm - prayformojo Apr 8, 13:13 16
  - yes, say Rickey Henderson is on 1st, Frank Thomas is batting.... - groiny Apr 8, 13:16 15
    - so is the wikipedia entry incorrect? - prayformojo Apr 8, 13:17 14
      - MLB.com says: - oblique Apr 8, 13:20 12
        
        which means Wikipedia is right and groiny is wrong -- nm - oblique Apr 8, 13:22 11
        
        right, but it is not only with runner on thrid...... - groiny Apr 8, 13:25 10
        
        but your example of a runner on first is incorrect. It's 1B/2B or bases loaded (which is a force at 3rd and home as I believe pfm said) -- nm - oblique Apr 8, 13:26 9
        
        I had half of it right. It doe snot make sense that as a fielder - groiny Apr 8, 13:27 8
        
        The rule is to prevent multiple outs from dropping a popup, it isn't supposed to stop the defense from choosing which runner to get out. (nm) - musubi Apr 8, 13:29 7
        
        You are correct, but it is dumb in that case. - groiny Apr 8, 13:30 6
        
        In field popups are pretty rare in general (iirc, leaguewide avg was something like 3%), and then consider the rarity of a batter - musubi Apr 8, 13:37
        
        All about the stats. Infielders don't want those errors!!! -- nm - Shaun Apr 8, 13:32 4
        
        they would not be errors. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 8, 13:35 3
        
        I would deem it so. -- nm - Shaun Apr 8, 13:36 2
        
        I believe it's only an error if it costs a base. -- nm - Reagen Apr 8, 13:44 1
        
        It would be my own personal "Nice catch dumbass" error. -- nm - Shaun Apr 8, 13:46
      - I believe that to be incorrect. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 8, 13:17
because if it's dropped, it's unlikely that they'd get both the advancing runner and the batter. -- nm - Reagen Apr 8, 12:59 11
- (Whereas a double play would be easy on a dropped fly with two runners on) -- nm - Reagen Apr 8, 13:01
- but why is it more unlikely than if the force was at third or home? -- nm - prayformojo Apr 8, 13:01 9
  - say you have a runner on first, less than two outs - Reagen Apr 8, 13:05
  - Because with a force at 3rd and home, that means there are multiple outs that can be gained by an intentional drop. - musubi Apr 8, 13:02 7
    - Though, this only makes it a wash. It would be less confusing for the rule to just apply in all cases. -- nm - TFox Apr 8, 13:17 2
      - I agree, plus it would make sense to switch a fast runner and let the slow bastard run. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 8, 13:26 1
        
        That's the bonus the defense gets for someone hitting a popup on the infield. (nm) - musubi Apr 8, 13:32
    - ok, that makes sense (in as much as it's still a stupid rule) -- nm - prayformojo Apr 8, 13:03 3
      - It's actually a perfectly sensible rule, to discourage intentional dropping the ball. - musubi Apr 8, 13:05 2
        
        look, kid, it's a stupid rule. don't make me regale you with more tales of haunted mojo's house -- nm - prayformojo Apr 8, 13:11 1
        
        Uncle, uncle. (nm) - musubi Apr 8, 13:31
even nubby can't explain the infield fly rule - the 40 year old virgin Apr 8, 12:59 2
- The Large Hadron Collider was built to try to answer the riddle of the infield fly rule. -- nm - Dano Apr 8, 13:05 1
  - and it broke as soon as they flipped the power on -- nm - the 40 year old virgin Apr 8, 13:08

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