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LIR: ty97. My biggest concern is relying on other governments for access to space. What if, heaven forbid, something goes wrong with our GPS

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Apr 14 '10, 08:40

either by accident or by any other means. Relying on the Russians to get us up there is a big big mistake.

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It's absolutely ridiculous for the United States of America's space strategy to be dependent on *any* other government. - Jovian Apr 14, 08:45 11
- You're all ridiculous sometimes. I obviously meant getting up in to space. - Jovian Apr 14, 09:05 6
  - Well, you haven't bothered to state why this is so essential for the US. Should be a pretty easy case to make, if the alternative is - Roger More Apr 14, 09:10 1
    - I don't think manned spaceflight is essential to the US, but I think it's important for humanity to make space more accessible. - Beryllium Apr 14, 09:21
  - The plan isn't to scuttle space travel, or even completely cancel Constellation. The Orion capsule is still contining. - musubi Apr 14, 09:10
  - Yes...we're the ridiculous ones pointing out logic such as other priorities and fiscal insanity and delays to the programs - Will Hunting Apr 14, 09:08 2
    - to win the next round of the international dick-measuring contest, of course... -- nm - znufrii Apr 14, 09:09 1
      - This is bullsh** as well. Space travel, and programs like Constellation, *are* important parts of our progress as a nation. - musubi Apr 14, 09:12
- Yeah! And space stations should be internati.....aw crap. (nm) - musubi Apr 14, 08:55
- "Because we're America, damnit!" -- nm - znufrii Apr 14, 08:49
- manned space flight is a very small part of America's overall space strategy -- nm - Roger More Apr 14, 08:49 1
  - space flight of any kind has been dependent on other countries for years. it aint like they manufacture a lot of those rocket parts here, y'know....nm - @#$!%#$@$#! x Apr 14, 08:54
I wonder why the fiscal sanity questions go out the window when we're talking exploration of space. - Will Hunting Apr 14, 08:42 22
- I can point to any project the government spends money on and say that some other thing deserves the money more - oblique Apr 14, 08:45 15
  - Someday leaving Earth ranks about 500th on the list of issues facing Americans - Will Hunting Apr 14, 08:46 14
    - Until that asteriod comes a calling. It is a super-long-term project but one that we cannot abandon for short-term reasons -- nm - oblique Apr 14, 08:48 9
      - You're using a 1990s Bruce Willis / Ben Affleck movie as your basis for government spending. - ty97 Apr 14, 08:50 8
        
        I'm just saying that there are many reasons why we need to have an active space program and some of them are inevitabilities -- nm - oblique Apr 14, 08:52 7
        
        No one is cutting NASA. -- nm - ty97 Apr 14, 08:53 6
        
        But they are dropping our ability to get into orbit independently for the next X years (maybe 10?). That's a major problem -- nm - oblique Apr 14, 08:55 5
        
        Thing is, even if funding for Constellation wasn't cut. Since Constellation was behind schedule, nothing is different in those 10 years. - musubi Apr 14, 08:59
        
        To get people into orbit. There are all sorts of launches in the US to get satellites and other payloads into orbit -- nm - Roger More Apr 14, 08:58
        
        I'm wondering what percentage of Americans would rate that as a bigger problem than unemployment, healthcare and gas prices. - Jim Apr 14, 08:58 1
        
        No one is saying it is a bigger problem. The government can multitask (supposedly) and in those terms, I've got a ton of other programs we should cut - oblique Apr 14, 08:59
        
        Yeah, guess they realized there's more important things than mice screwing in zero-gravity. -- nm - Will Hunting Apr 14, 08:56
    - I appreciate that Obama appears to be taking a pragmatic approach to Space Travel, while not abonaning NASA completely. - musubi Apr 14, 08:48 1
      - Yup. -- nm - Krusty Apr 14, 08:58
    - either way? Outsourcing (which is basically what we're doing) to the Russians isnt the answer though. -- nm - Jovian Apr 14, 08:48 1
      - No, we should outsource to US businesses. - Will Hunting Apr 14, 08:50
- Or for military spending. - musubi Apr 14, 08:43 5
  - Ding! If we wanted to get serious we'd take real hard looks at the military. I'd be happy cutting it in half or more. -- nm - Don Homer Apr 14, 08:45 3
    - I'd like to point out that I am not advocating cutting military spending, but it annoys me that it's considered such a sacred cow. - musubi Apr 14, 08:47 2
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      - Word. -- nm - znufrii Apr 14, 08:47
  - What I like is that cutting military spending is more popular than, say, cutting Medicare or Social Security -- nm - Roger More Apr 14, 08:44

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