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In response to "Guigue...Honest question...How else should Canadians read Quebec's voting for the Bloc if not as an anti-federal message?" by Name Withheld By Request

Don't try to get me to defend the bloc, like I said this morning, they were the last of the 4 parties I would have voted for in the last election

Posted by Guigue (aka Guigue) Nov 27 '08, 14:10

I'm saying this is not the way to go, The endgame of the Tories is so obvious, it will only fuel the hatred towards the Tories in Quebec. For many people, they represent the mean english canadian that tries to keep Quebec down, and this will be another argument.

You may not agree with the Bloc, but they're not an illegal party, they don't promote anything illegal, and their ideas deserve the same respect.

Your discourse towards Quebec is basically the separatist one, flipped. You keep saying "Canadian pundits" so much, it's kind of obvious you at least partially agree with them. You think maybe Canada would be better of without Quebec, separatist think the same way. And everyone is entitled to their opinion.

The Conservatives are using their position of power to give themselves an advantage, all the while claiming it's because of the economy. That's deceitful.

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I'm not asking you to defend the Bloc. I'm asking you to defend Quebeckers. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:23 23
- Sorry, Quebeckers won't be Canadians before Quebeckers anytime soon - Guigue Nov 27, 14:33 14
  - That's the problem! If your post had been written by a westerner in the 90's and you replaced "Bloc" with "Reform", you'd have been considered... - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:47 13
    - My most fervent hope is that they simply maintain the status quo, and don't actively try to fuck the country in the ass. - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:52 12
      - The status quo is already a problem of "There's everyone else and then there's us." I'm not even the biggest federalist and that disconnect bothers.. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:54 11
        
        What is it that you want them to share with you? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:57 10
        
        I want Quebeckers to show that they actually want to be Canadians. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:58 9
        
        Also, you're using the word wrong. Quebecker also refers to Aboriginal and english-speaking residents of Quebec. - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:02 1
        
        You may be correct. But when the official line of the provincial government is so nationalistic as well, it's tough not to encompess everyone. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:08
        
        Who else do you want to demonstrate their desire to be Canadian? First Nations? Chinese-Canadians? - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:59 6
        
        And that makes it okay? That means it's unfair of me to ask why I should continue to support the demands of people who want no part of my country? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:02 5
        
        honestly, it seems a bit strange for you to be saying "You shouldn't want the things you say you want." Seems poor as an overall strategy. -- nm - Reagen Nov 27, 15:06 2
        
        That's the thing though. They say they don't want to leave Canada, but they don't show that they care about Canada either. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:12 1
        
        They've had a different vision of Canada for hundreds of years and will continue to for hudnreds more. might as well command the tide not to rise. -- nm - Reagen Nov 27, 15:14
        
        No, but in my opinion, it makes you Un-Canadian to be so xenophobic. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:03 1
        
        (see what I did there? I proved your point, but accused you of the same exact mentality as them.) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:06
- Awww, you're such a martyr for decency. Why don't you go there and ask them? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:25 7
  - Seriously Bery, am I that wrong to ask for a little show of faith? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:27 5
    - You're wrong to ask the Internet for it, and you're wrong to listen to Pundits to try and find it. - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:28 4
      - I'm asking a Quebecker here am I not? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:29 2
        
        You're asking one Quebecois to defend all of us, like we're all the same - Guigue Nov 27, 14:39
        
        Hai. This is the Internets. Home of the Rantburger. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:30
      - (And I really do think that you could make a superb series on your Blog about it) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:28
  - ... in fact, take an HD camera, and do a roving reporter series on your blog about it. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:26
And if those pundits are just now discovering that Quebec still has a large separatist faction, they should read their own newspaper a little more - Guigue Nov 27, 14:13

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