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In response to "I'm not asking you to defend the Bloc. I'm asking you to defend Quebeckers. " by Name Withheld By Request

Sorry, Quebeckers won't be Canadians before Quebeckers anytime soon

Posted by Guigue (aka Guigue) Nov 27 '08, 14:33

That's just how things are. Even though I think we have a lot of point in common, the language barrier is too important, and that goes both way.

During election time, the bloc acts all anti-Canada because they have a portion of separatists to please. But I'm sure in parliament, it's different. They bring ideas, discuss the matter at hands. I don't think they're more useless than the NDP.

And I'd say thanks for "defending" us, but you said in your first paragraph that you didn't believe any of it, so I'll pass.

If it makes you feel any better, there's no talk of a referendum right now, and the support for independence is not high at all.

A lot of people don't vote for the Bloc because they want independence. They just do because it's the only party that talks their language, figuratively and literally

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That's the problem! If your post had been written by a westerner in the 90's and you replaced "Bloc" with "Reform", you'd have been considered... - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:47 13
- My most fervent hope is that they simply maintain the status quo, and don't actively try to fuck the country in the ass. - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:52 12
  - The status quo is already a problem of "There's everyone else and then there's us." I'm not even the biggest federalist and that disconnect bothers.. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:54 11
    - What is it that you want them to share with you? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:57 10
      - I want Quebeckers to show that they actually want to be Canadians. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 14:58 9
        
        Also, you're using the word wrong. Quebecker also refers to Aboriginal and english-speaking residents of Quebec. - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:02 1
        
        You may be correct. But when the official line of the provincial government is so nationalistic as well, it's tough not to encompess everyone. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:08
        
        Who else do you want to demonstrate their desire to be Canadian? First Nations? Chinese-Canadians? - Beryllium Nov 27, 14:59 6
        
        And that makes it okay? That means it's unfair of me to ask why I should continue to support the demands of people who want no part of my country? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:02 5
        
        honestly, it seems a bit strange for you to be saying "You shouldn't want the things you say you want." Seems poor as an overall strategy. -- nm - Reagen Nov 27, 15:06 2
        
        That's the thing though. They say they don't want to leave Canada, but they don't show that they care about Canada either. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:12 1
        
        They've had a different vision of Canada for hundreds of years and will continue to for hudnreds more. might as well command the tide not to rise. -- nm - Reagen Nov 27, 15:14
        
        No, but in my opinion, it makes you Un-Canadian to be so xenophobic. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:03 1
        
        (see what I did there? I proved your point, but accused you of the same exact mentality as them.) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:06

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