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In response to "I think the cultural influence of Quebec is integral to the spirit of being Canadian, and while it does sadden me that a (seemingly large) subset of " by Beryllium

What I don't get is how NWBR wants us Quebecois to show our love for Canada...

Posted by Guigue (aka Guigue) Nov 27 '08, 15:38

It seems it's all about the party we vote for...

I try not to pub so much importance in that. I know a bunch of out of Quebec Canadians. I know a lot of Quebecois. To me, they have a whole lot in common.

But the language barrier is huge, and makes making connections harder. You don't listen to any of our music, we don't watch your TV shows. quebecois who don't speak a good english and don't go on the internet that often don't know a lot ofenglish speaking Canadians. English speaking Canadians rarely speak french and will only know the more "international" kind of Quebecois, but will judge the other by what they see in newspaper.

I think we just have to live with each other, because I honestly think we all bring something for the rest of the country. Wether it's the cowboys of Alberta, the hippies of BC, the fisherman of the Maritimes or the angry separatists of Quebec. My point is yes Quebec is different, but so are many different parts of the country, and we manage fine.

I don't see the high percentage of Bloc voters of Quebec as a big obstacle to cohabitation.

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Yes, but all those other groups you mention...Push comes to shove, they usually recognize themselves as Canadian. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:50 34
- Once again you come back to the government - Guigue Nov 27, 15:57 20
  - Bullshit. The idea that the Bloc represents a different form of government is wrong because they'll never govern and people voting for them know that - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:02 19
    - Wow okay you're more serious about this than I thought... - Guigue Nov 27, 16:09 13
      - Quebec voters have never voted in large numbers for a non-Quebec leader of a national party. Do you think that is a coincedence? - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:13 1
        
        (this one is definitely meant in jest) Oh, NWBR. You're such an embittered martyr. :) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:16
      - I think NWBR is just upset that Quebec gets its own entire party to assert its Provincial interests on a Federal level. - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:11 10
        
        No. I'm upset that I'm always told to make excuses for special status and special programs without being told by anyone as to why. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:16 9
        
        Because we're Canadian. We're nice. We are persistent even in the face of adversity, we are determined to keep our country whole, and we want - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:20 8
        
        How can a country be whole when a large percentage of its people don't give a flying fig what happens to the rest of it? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:22 7
        
        By the will of the people. I thought I made that clear already? - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:39 6
        
        ... to finalize the thought, the single most important tactic is persistence, even in the face of adversity and failure. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:40 5
        
        If you weren't a dirty hippy, I'd kiss you -- nm - Guigue Nov 27, 16:42
        
        Well good I guess, because your strategy has been in place for fifty years and can hardly be said to be working. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:42 3
        
        And *fine*, go get your rocks off. - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:43
        
        Wow, I think you should open a history book and see how it was in Quebec 50 years ago -- nm - Guigue Nov 27, 16:43
        
        Attitudes like yours will bring us to the brink of what Belgium is facing. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:43
    - well it was Stephane Dion, but... -- nm - Reagen Nov 27, 16:06 1
      - I dropped the caveat from earlier. "Non-elected." Justin Trudeau's the most likely person now. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:08
    - You really think it's going to be a big deal? Something so petty as this? Oooh ... you're going to have a sad, sad decade. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:04 2
      - Bery, I knew before you posted on B2 that you're posting stuff to just rile me up, so please tell me you're not this disengaged and aloof. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:09 1
        
        I am dead serious in this one opinion: The issue of Quebec Sovereignty v. Canada is *not* going to be the dominant crisis of the next decade. - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:13
- Go. There. And. Ask. Them. And. Film. It. And. Profit. From. It. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:51 12
  - Send me a cheque to fund it and I'd go in a heartbeat. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:52 11
    - And Harper just cut arts funding. Damn irony. -- nm - Reagen Nov 27, 15:53 7
      - But he didn't! That's the thing that bugs me the most. The arts cuts....weren't. The department budget grew and the cuts came from within the... - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:58 6
        
        And that's why the protests weren't against Canada, but against the Conservative Party -- nm - Guigue Nov 27, 16:00 5
        
        Quebec has voted a majority of the Bloc in six elections now. This isn't just a piss off to the Tories. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:07 3
        
        I'm not sure you know the Bloc that well, and how they campain - Guigue Nov 27, 16:12 1
        
        I know voting Bloc is not the same as voting seperatist. But it is voting for a party that will never govern. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 16:19
        
        So really, you want the Bloc to be disbanded, and that will solve the problem? That's the gesture you want from Quebec? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 16:09
        
        (We protest against the actions of our provincial government, that doesn't make us anti-Qu�bec) -- nm - Guigue Nov 27, 16:03
    - Hey, if I was running the government, there'd be a New Media Endowment program to do just that. But I'm not. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:52 2
      - If we were ripping on the Canadian Need To Be Told How To Live By Government, I'd be bookmarking this post. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:55 1
        
        I would love to see government funding for projects like LoadingReadyRun. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:56
I always imagine the separatists of Quebec as similar to the cowboys of Alberta. - Subversive Nov 27, 15:43 13
- This isn't to do with seperatism anymore. It's about engaging with your countrymen. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:51
- There are a few hardcore separatists, but most people are mild supporters. That's why the % of support change a lot and quickly - Guigue Nov 27, 15:49 4
  - l'effect du Bradleux? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:50 3
    - I need to find how you translate "chickenshit" -- nm - Guigue Nov 27, 15:51 2
      - "le merde du coq"? -- nm - Reagen Nov 27, 15:54
      - hahah. That would be great :) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:53
- There is a lot of truth to the idea that Quebec and Alberta would be best friends if only they'd get over hating each other. - Reagen Nov 27, 15:45 5
  - If I were to openly advocate for Western seperatism, I would be dead in the water politically, right? - Name Withheld By Request Nov 27, 15:54 3
    - outright seperatism, yes. framed in a different light, not so much - Reagen Nov 27, 15:56
    - You'd be the Separation Party of Alberta -- (link) - Subversive Nov 27, 15:55
    - Well, you'd be branded as a kook, for sure. But some people would still listen. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:55
  - At the Carnaval de Qu�bec there's the "Calgary Breakfast". Cowboys in winter eating sausages with the Bonhomme Carnaval! - Guigue Nov 27, 15:47
- Well-said. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:44
Note: I'm not a hippie of BC, I'm a yuppie of BC. :-) - Beryllium Nov 27, 15:41
pay 10% more in tax voluntarily? :) -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk Nov 27, 15:41

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