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In response to "oh FFS. Some women actually can lift a lot. as I said on b2 I probably got the starting weight wrong." by loosilu

I'm not saying women are weak, so don't conflate the argument that way. You said there's no way aerobic weights work, and that simply wasn't true.

Posted by musubi May 3 '10, 13:03

You may have done 25s, congrats, that's a very heavy weight. But for probably 98% of women (and probably 70% of men) quarters would be way, way too much weight. And 5 to 10 lb weights would be *totally* appropriate for someone who has *never* weight trained before, man or woman.

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And it's definitely too much to start with. -- nm - Jim May 3, 13:05 27
- would be fine as doubles. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:06 26
  - Not for most of the population, I assure you. - musubi May 3, 13:12 15
    - Think of me as a female groiny, seriously. My dad was very into weight training. I'm a mule. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:13 14
      - Again, your experience is not the point. The assumption that light weights are only for invalids is a wrong (and slightly dangerous) notion. - musubi May 3, 13:16 6
        
        ok, you and others are exaggerating and twisting my words, so I'm done. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:17 5
        
        Forgive me if I'm twisting your words, but please tell me, how am I supposed to read this post? (link) - musubi May 3, 13:20 [Backboard] 3
        
        I'm curious how you're interpreting posts like this. -- (link) - loosilu May 3, 13:23 [Backboard] 2
        
        I interpret that as a lone post that contradicts numerous other posts you made in the discussion. - musubi May 3, 13:25 1
        
        there were a number like that. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:27
        
        We really aren't. -- nm - Shaun May 3, 13:17
      - but if you know that, why would you assert them as being a fine starting weight for most women? -- nm - TFox May 3, 13:14 5
        
        I didn't. Not once. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:16 3
        
        *looks up like four posts* -- nm - TFox May 3, 13:17 2
        
        where does it say "most women"? -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:18 1
        
        when someone makes a global statement and the response is without qualification, how is it supposed to be interpreted as just about you? -- nm - TFox May 3, 13:19
        
        Especially a woman like Meg. -- nm - Shaun May 3, 13:15
      - *ears perk up* -- nm - Dignan SI May 3, 13:14
  - no it would not. -- nm - decline May 3, 13:10
  - Please try to branch out from your personal experience. -- nm - Shaun May 3, 13:08
  - 25 pounds to start? I'm in pretty reasonable shape and i bet i couldn't do hardly any reps at 25 pounds. -- nm - Andie May 3, 13:07 7
    - doubles = 2 arm extensions, and I can easily do that from a cold start. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:08 6
      - *grunts loudly, drops weights, swings arms, announces that she's going to get a smoothie to feed the vipers* -- nm - loosi si May 3, 13:10 1
        
        *eats a hobbit.* nm, -- nm - loosie May 3, 13:11
      - yes, i know what they are. but how many can you do if you are doing a full upper body workout ? -- nm - Andie May 3, 13:09 3
        
        3 sets. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:10 2
        
        3 sets of what? and if you google they recommend starting with a lower weight, fyi. -- nm - Andie May 3, 13:11 1
        
        I have done weight programs a number of times over the years, and I need more than they recommend. I don't have a machine here to do an accurat count, - loosilu May 3, 13:12
and it al depends on what you are trying to do. - groiny May 3, 13:04
by "aerobic weights" I am specifically referring to small weights designed for use during aerobic exercise, typically 1-3 pounds. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:04 4
- to build muscle, all you need to start doing is use more than your muscles are used to. - b. May 3, 13:09 3
  - if 1 pound challenges your triceps, you've got problems. deltoids or another small muscle are another story. -- nm - loosilu May 3, 13:14 1
    - crikey. -- nm - b. May 3, 13:54
  - Only if you are an invalid apparently. -- nm - Shaun May 3, 13:12

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I'm not saying women are weak, so don't conflate the argument that way. You said there's no way aerobic weights work, and that simply wasn't true.

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