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In response to "it's a counterfactual. you can't say how much more violence there would be if we didn't have the security in place that we have now" by peace machine

"That's like me saying this rock here keeps tigers away because there are no tigers around." "How does your rock work?"

"It doesn't!"

How about the proponents of increased security prove that it does what it is supposed to do before we spend the billions annually and disrupt the regular passengers?



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