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What would be an argument for the death penalty other than vengence?

Posted by Guigue (aka Guigue) May 12 '10, 11:26

Maybe vengence is too strong a word, but basically "giving them what they deserve"

We know it doesn't save society money, it doesn't protect society against murderers more than a lifetime in prison.

All I see left is "They deserve it"

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Mythbusting! -- nm - Max May 12, 11:36
they never asked me out on a second date :( -- nm - Loosi si May 12, 11:35 3
- are you confusing me with Redmond again? -- nm - loosilu May 12, 11:35 2
  - quite possibly :( - peglegpete May 12, 11:36 1
    - it's the THIRD date that's my problem. -- nm - loosilu May 12, 11:37
financial. nm -- nm - groiny May 12, 11:34
population control -- nm - peglegpete May 12, 11:34
entertainment. -- nm - TFox May 12, 11:33
A measure of closure for the victim's families and the society affected by the crime. - Name Withheld By Request May 12, 11:32 6
- That's a nicer way of saying vengence - Guigue May 12, 11:36 2
  - By what definition of vengence? - Name Withheld By Request May 12, 11:40 1
    - I don't see how it would bring closure, personally. "Oh, the murderer's dead. Still doesn't bring my loved one back" -- nm - Roger More May 12, 11:41
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  - No. I would leave that to the law-makers of the land to lay out the terms of application. - Name Withheld By Request May 12, 11:35 1
    - [deleted]
I don't believe it's vengeance. I belive it's justice. - Will Hunting May 12, 11:32 6
- Hitler thought the Jews were evil -- nm - CQ May 12, 11:33 4
  - Invoking Hitler here is just absurd. - Will Hunting May 12, 11:35 3
    - yeah, lame attempt at humor, but to say someone, however evil they may be, deserves to die is not anyone's choice to make imo -- nm - CQ May 12, 11:41 1
      - We grant that power to people every day. - Will Hunting May 12, 11:45
    - Word. -- nm - Jim May 12, 11:39
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Permanent removal of a detriment to society. -- nm - Max May 12, 11:31 2
- and yet we still let Dignan run free -- nm - Dano May 12, 11:32 1
  - We've got a much laxer system. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request May 12, 11:33
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"The Phillies claim Billmeyer was checking out their own catcher, an excuse that doesn't hold water because, well, the Phillies were at bat." -- nm - TFox May 12, 11:30
Justice -- nm - Jovian May 12, 11:30
deterrence -- nm - Nightcrawler May 12, 11:29
DeTerrence! -- nm - oblique May 12, 11:29
the only valid rationale for it that I can see is to do it out of mercy. - znufrii May 12, 11:29 5
- Financial reasons, too. -- nm - nubby May 12, 11:31 4
  - if you took away the death penalty, costs would go do. The high costs of death row prisoners come from appeals. -- nm - loosilu May 12, 11:33 1
    - And THIS is why the system is broken. -- nm - Jim May 12, 11:39
  - for me, that is not an ethically valid reason. -- nm - znufrii May 12, 11:31 1
    - Why do you hate America? -- nm - nubby May 12, 11:41
Repercussions? -- nm - JaxSean May 12, 11:29
that's how I see it. It's a what the hells' the point. It certainly isn't a deterrent -- nm - CQ May 12, 11:28 2
- In fact, it works in reverse. It sends the message that killing is justifiable and cheapens the perceived sanctity of life. -- nm - Liberal Vermin May 12, 11:36 1
  - that is a very interesting point I hadn't considered. -- nm - znufrii May 12, 11:36
DETERRENCE. -- nm - nubby May 12, 11:28
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- I don't believe it works for murder. But possibly for treason -- nm - crash davis May 12, 11:29
- True, thanks to both of you - Guigue May 12, 11:28 5
  - Yeah, I don't think it's effective for that purpose. -- nm - loosilu May 12, 11:30 4
    - I doubt a lot of people think "I'll kill that guy. Anyway I will only get life in prison, so it's fine" -- nm - Guigue May 12, 11:32 3
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        on TV, it often seems like they are :) -- nm - Beryllium May 12, 11:38
        
        (Most murderers wouldn't know how to do this even if they wanted to.) -- nm - TFox May 12, 11:38
deterrence. -- nm - loosilu May 12, 11:27

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