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In response to "What I would do is publish a list of customers that give more or less than the value of their food, so that everyone would know" by znufrii

doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose? -- nm

Posted by Andie (aka Andie) May 21 '10, 07:10

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what good is a utopian society if it doesn't have a healthy dose of guilt in it? -- nm - TFox May 21, 07:15
if the purpose is to let anyone and everyone freeload off of you, yes, it would. - znufrii May 21, 07:14 28
- It defeats the purpose of the whole thing. Give us what you want, but you'll be punished if you don't give enough! -- nm - Guigue May 21, 07:38
- *confused gaze* -- nm - Beaker May 21, 07:16 26
  - so, if someone needs a break and donates less than it was worth you would post their names as freeloaders? -- nm - Beaker May 21, 07:18 25
    - I wouldn't call them freeloaders, no. -- nm - znufrii May 21, 07:24 24
      - But how do you tell them apart from the people who can afford to pay the recommended price, but don't? -- nm - Roger More May 21, 07:26 1
        
        I don't. I'd leave that up to their peers and friends to determine. -- nm - znufrii May 21, 07:29
      - then why post their names? -- nm - Beaker May 21, 07:25 21
        
        to discourage people who don't need it from taking advantage of it - znufrii May 21, 07:26 20
        
        but, no-one who needs it will go there either. there's a reason soup kitchens don't post names. no-one wants to be publically outed as needing help. -- nm - Andie May 21, 07:29
        
        But then the people who need assistance won't accept it, for fear of being seen as freeloaders -- nm - Roger More May 21, 07:28 18
        
        I really don't think that would be the main deterrent for them, actually. Pride, on the other hand... -- nm - znufrii May 21, 07:32 8
        
        fear of being seen as freeloaders = pride -- nm - Roger More May 21, 07:33 7
        
        nope. - znufrii May 21, 07:34 6
        
        okay, so, they wouldn't do it out of pride, whatever. -- nm - Andie May 21, 07:36 5
        
        yes, and I'm conceding that as a valid point. - znufrii May 21, 07:36 4
        
        "something society needs to work on" - but you want to make people feel shame? - Andie May 21, 07:42 2
        
        certainly not. - znufrii May 21, 07:51 1
        
        We have a system for that: set prices. The restaurant decided to let people pay what they want, they knew the possible consequences - Guigue May 21, 07:57
        
        I'll get right to work on that! -- nm - Society May 21, 07:42
        
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        Seriously, I'm not seeing much difference between znu's system and the Arizona immigration law. -- nm - Roger More May 21, 07:30 7
        
        how so? - znufrii May 21, 07:33 6
        
        Because you're basically inviting people to judge others based on their apparent situation. - Roger More May 21, 07:40
        
        yet -- nm - Beaker May 21, 07:36
        
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        oh shut up. - znufrii May 21, 07:35 2
        
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        duh. -- nm - znufrii May 21, 07:37

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