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it's been doing that for 5 weeks? I can't even comprehend the damage that's been done. -- nm

Posted by decline (aka Decline) May 26 '10, 07:36

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and the lack of leadershuip once again from the White House, when it concerns the Gulf is criminal. - Remlik May 26, 07:59 1
- true. but we also only have so many feet of oil buoys to stop the spread, and so many ships to clean it up - tRuMaN May 26, 08:14
I'm really pissed this is happening considering it's a limited, non-renewable source (in addition to doing incredible damage to the ecosystem) -- nm - zork May 26, 07:48 2
- Depending on what the exact flow rate is, it might not even rank in the top 10 worst in history. -- (link) - JaxSean May 26, 08:03
- It's maddening. -- nm - Don Homer May 26, 07:51
heck they cannot even agree (scientists, the gov, BP) on how much actual oil is being spilled -- nm - tRuMaN May 26, 07:44 3
- BP seems to be refusing to allow independent experts to examine the pipes to make their own estimates, so there's a lot of confusion -- nm - Roger More May 26, 07:47 1
  - yeah, a lot of guess work is being done based on the video of the underwater leaks - tRuMaN May 26, 07:48
- We told you, ninjas. -- nm - ICP May 26, 07:46
this is slowed down, right? like, they've made *some* progress? -- nm - workmanda May 26, 07:41 1
- not really. the one measure that worked - tRuMaN May 26, 07:43
I know I don't understand but like...there isn't a shutoff valve anywhere? - Mel Profit May 26, 07:40 41
- there is, supposedly, but it failed. - tRuMaN May 26, 07:42 40
  - It got all messed up when the platform sank and dragged the pipe connected to it along with it. -- nm - Ender May 26, 07:44 10
    - yeah. you would have thought someone would have thought of that when designing the thing for the worst case scenario stuff -- nm - tRuMaN May 26, 07:45 9
      - What I don't understand is why they didn't implement the shutoff in the time between when it caught fire and when it sank. - Ender May 26, 07:48 8
        
        maybe they were too busy running for their lives... -- nm - znufrii May 26, 07:51
        
        well, the way npr explained it, its automatic based on a signal from the platform - tRuMaN May 26, 07:50
        
        I thought the same thing but didn't post it because I figured there was a reason. - Mel Profit May 26, 07:50
        
        I think the fire may have prevented them from doing that. And, of course, eleven people died - that may have affected things, too -- nm - Beryllium May 26, 07:49 4
        
        Then that's a piss poor crisis response team those people have. - Will Hunting May 26, 07:51 3
        
        the rig exploded and sank in pretty short order. it's not like they had heaps of time sitting around, wondering "hey, did anyone hit the shutoff?" - mafic May 26, 08:28
        
        I do feel sorry for BP in the sense that they were the company unlucky enough to have it happen on their platform - znufrii May 26, 07:54
        
        I think any doubt of that has been washed out to sea. -- nm - Beryllium May 26, 07:52
  - I guess I just can't wrap my head around the fact that after 5 weeks we can't stop it. -- nm - Mel Profit May 26, 07:44 21
    - This just proves we need to keep drilling. baby. -- nm - Don Homer May 26, 07:48
    - Honestly I can't believe it took them 5 weeks to come up with the idea of cramming a bunch of junk and cement in the hole. - pmb May 26, 07:47 19
      - because in doing so, they cap the well forever (supposedly) - tRuMaN May 26, 07:48 18
        
        Obviously I'm no geologist/engineer, but there's no ability to tap the well from a different spot? You can't drill again 200 feet away and get there? - pmb May 26, 07:51 16
        
        I drink your milkshake! -- nm - Epiphany May 26, 07:55
        
        My understanding is that they are doing this, but it's a process that takes months -- nm - Roger More May 26, 07:55 1
        
        Oh hang on, you're asking something completely different -- nm - Roger More May 26, 07:57
        
        I don't think that would stop the flow from the first hole. I'm sure they are losing so much product that preserving costs is not on the table now -- nm - zork May 26, 07:54
        
        Not to mention the enormous costs to their image (which, rightly or wrongly, was that of the "green" oil company). -- nm - Don Homer May 26, 07:51 11
        
        yeah, once this is done, they will totally have to change their logo (and possibly their name) -- nm - Beryllium May 26, 07:53 10
        
        I don't think image matters that much when you produce the thing the entire world runs on. -- nm - mara May 26, 07:55 8
        
        good point especially since they haven't had retail BP stations for years AFAIK -- nm - zork May 26, 07:56 3
        
        Here's a search for finding one near you... -- (link) - Don Homer May 26, 07:59
        
        That's not true at all. There's one right near where I live, for one. -- nm - Don Homer May 26, 07:57 1
        
        and not only that, they just spent a few million rebranding themselves entirely about 4 years ago -- nm - Beryllium May 26, 08:00
        
        they make batteries?? -- nm - Don Homer May 26, 07:55 3
        
        i'm really annoyed at my brain for instantly doing the duracell chime thing when i read your post. - Andie May 26, 07:57 2
        
        The Intel jingle is the worst. - Mel Profit May 26, 08:00 1
        
        does that toyota ad with the 'when i think of you my heart goes beep' song play in the US? it's PAINFULLY earwormy. -- nm - Andie May 26, 08:05
        
        xfinity! -- nm - Don Homer May 26, 07:54
        
        there's the answer. -- nm - Mel Profit May 26, 07:49
  - blowout preventer. -- nm - znufrii May 26, 07:43 6
    - funny name for something that didnt work -- nm - tRuMaN May 26, 07:44 5
      - Or possibly didn't exist. They got a special approval, I heard, to skip one safety system completely. For a savings of $500k. -- nm - Beryllium May 26, 07:45 4
        
        it's what happens when you effectively allow the industry to regulate itself. - znufrii May 26, 07:47 3
        
        Indeed, this post preaches to my anti-corporate choir ... -- nm - Beryllium May 26, 07:48
        
        see also: baseball -- nm - tRuMaN May 26, 07:47 1
        
        Baseball should start taking batting practice directly into the stands... - Mel Profit May 26, 07:51
I think that entire ecosystem will be destroyed, for real. -- nm - loosilu May 26, 07:38
yeah, i have a hard time wrapping my head around it. -- nm - TFox May 26, 07:37 1
- if only you could, the problem would be solved! -- nm - zork May 26, 07:47

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