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In response to "No. I can't count his numbers from Japan. He's one of the best hitters I've ever seen but " by Krusty

The fact he's hit almost as well against MLB pitchers to me makes them legit.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Jun 5 '10, 08:29

This isn't Matsui who came over here and was only a good hitter...this is a guy who came here and is setting records for his hitting.

And what he gained in skill vs AAAA pitchers, he lost in the 25 games a year they play less.

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I wonder what that looks like as a mathematical algorithm. The record books people will need to know. -- nm - Mop Jun 5, 09:36
Sure but I can't get past the fact that they weren't major league pitchers and those aren't major league parks. - Krusty Jun 5, 08:32 20
- If it's smaller parks to mitigate his #'s, you'd see a massive spike in HR's for him taking advantage - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:22 18
  - Also much larger foul area in NBP. The leagues are different, no question. But you are making a bunch of random assumptions to accept some numbers - musubi Jun 5, 09:24 1
    - Vs the other argument of "Weaker pitching and smaller fields" - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:25
  - My argument is simple. He didn't get those hits in MLB, they don't count towards a MLB record. You can call him the world hits leader but - Krusty Jun 5, 09:23 12
    - what he's saying is, some people would care about that. not that he should get the MLB record. - TFox Jun 5, 09:25 6
      - He can have the world hitting record. I won't deny how great a hitter he his but I won't give him a record he didn't earn. Also, who's Luke? -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:30 5
        
        The Force is not strong with this one. - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:31
        
        "What else do I have to do for you people?!" *weeps* -- nm - Luke Skywalker si Jun 5, 09:31 3
        
        I thought it was Skywalker but I didn't get the joke. - Krusty Jun 5, 09:35 2
        
        :) - TFox Jun 5, 09:42 1
        
        Yeah, I've seen them I guess and I didn't get the joke then either and just moved on to another joke I don't get. :-) -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:43
    - You'll notice I didn't say MLB record in regards to Rose. - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:25 4
      - The number you're talking about is a MLB record and besides what other baseball records do people care about? -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:26 3
        
        When a # can be eclipsed by a guy who's proven a) that he's legit here and b) unable to be a full-here guy - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:29 2
        
        I'm loving the discussion myself. I don't consider those years taken from him. Was he not allowed to leave Japan earlier? Did he have to sign a - Krusty Jun 5, 09:34 1
        
        He wasn't a free agent there; and was posted when his team there thought they might lose hiim without compensation - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:36
  - Plus this: "They commonly have much wider foul areas than Major League parks, which decreases scoring because it creates more foul outs." -- (link) - TFox Jun 5, 09:23 2
    - Then you can argue that since they have a lot of turf fields, ground balls will get through more often since they move faster than on grass. -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:25 1
      - Or we could compare averages and see how many extra hits that might have resulted in ... oh wait. -- nm - Reagen Jun 5, 09:31
- word -- nm - Nightcrawler Jun 5, 08:58

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