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In response to "The fact he's hit almost as well against MLB pitchers to me makes them legit." by Will Hunting

Sure but I can't get past the fact that they weren't major league pitchers and those aren't major league parks.

Posted by Krusty (aka Krustylu) Jun 5 '10, 08:32

It matters to me. I'll admit he's one of the best hitters ever. But I can't count his numbers from Japan towards any records.

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If it's smaller parks to mitigate his #'s, you'd see a massive spike in HR's for him taking advantage - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:22 18
- Also much larger foul area in NBP. The leagues are different, no question. But you are making a bunch of random assumptions to accept some numbers - musubi Jun 5, 09:24 1
  - Vs the other argument of "Weaker pitching and smaller fields" - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:25
- My argument is simple. He didn't get those hits in MLB, they don't count towards a MLB record. You can call him the world hits leader but - Krusty Jun 5, 09:23 12
  - what he's saying is, some people would care about that. not that he should get the MLB record. - TFox Jun 5, 09:25 6
    - He can have the world hitting record. I won't deny how great a hitter he his but I won't give him a record he didn't earn. Also, who's Luke? -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:30 5
      - The Force is not strong with this one. - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:31
      - "What else do I have to do for you people?!" *weeps* -- nm - Luke Skywalker si Jun 5, 09:31 3
        
        I thought it was Skywalker but I didn't get the joke. - Krusty Jun 5, 09:35 2
        
        :) - TFox Jun 5, 09:42 1
        
        Yeah, I've seen them I guess and I didn't get the joke then either and just moved on to another joke I don't get. :-) -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:43
  - You'll notice I didn't say MLB record in regards to Rose. - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:25 4
    - The number you're talking about is a MLB record and besides what other baseball records do people care about? -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:26 3
      - When a # can be eclipsed by a guy who's proven a) that he's legit here and b) unable to be a full-here guy - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:29 2
        
        I'm loving the discussion myself. I don't consider those years taken from him. Was he not allowed to leave Japan earlier? Did he have to sign a - Krusty Jun 5, 09:34 1
        
        He wasn't a free agent there; and was posted when his team there thought they might lose hiim without compensation - Will Hunting Jun 5, 09:36
- Plus this: "They commonly have much wider foul areas than Major League parks, which decreases scoring because it creates more foul outs." -- (link) - TFox Jun 5, 09:23 2
  - Then you can argue that since they have a lot of turf fields, ground balls will get through more often since they move faster than on grass. -- nm - Krusty Jun 5, 09:25 1
    - Or we could compare averages and see how many extra hits that might have resulted in ... oh wait. -- nm - Reagen Jun 5, 09:31
word -- nm - Nightcrawler Jun 5, 08:58

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Sure but I can't get past the fact that they weren't major league pitchers and those aren't major league parks.

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