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Basketball folks: Where does Kobe rank all-time? I'm thinking Top 10 easily, but Top 5 might be pushing it? -- nm

Posted by Shaun (aka bigshaunu) Jun 18 '10, 07:24

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I'd rank him about 10th. - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:35 13
- I was just thinking about Duncan. What about Olajuwon? -- nm - flavorize Jun 18, 07:38 2
  - Kobe's going to pass Hakeem on the scoring chart next year at 31, has more than double the titles... nope. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:40
  - No. Olajuwon had 2 years when Jordan wasn't around. - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:39
- I could concede the argument for Duncan too. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:35 9
  - Try as I might want to, I can't ignore the concept that he was such a headcase in the past that he'd get so pissed off at his team, he'd pull some of - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:39
  - Well, I dunno. I maybe could. I think Kobe's better. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:35 7
    - I think it comes down the idea that in Duncan, I'm getting steady brilliance. In Kobe, I'm getting a guy who very likely could be the best but also - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:40 6
      - In Kobe, you're getting a player who gives you an over 40% chance of winning an NBA title each year as a starter. - TFox Jun 18, 07:42 5
        
        I look at it this way; Shaq and him won 3. He and Gasol (in a ridiculous trade) have won 2. - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:46 4
        
        Jordan had Pippen the whole way; it doesn't invalidate his titles. It's not like Gasol was dominant in this series. At all. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:48 3
        
        It does give a baseline for Kobe's ability that 5 titles, all required a 2nd fiddle of note - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:55 2
        
        So did Jordan's. And I think you're stretching to put Gasol on Shaq's level too. And Bird had McHale and Parish, and Magic had Kareem, and so on. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:57 1
        
        Gasol's not on his level per se, but he's unquestionably put them at a much higher level and came about due to a trade that - Will Hunting Jun 18, 08:03
I'd guess I'd determine if he's the greatest Laker player, of all-time. IMO Ranks ahead of Kareem, behind Magic - flavorize Jun 18, 07:30 1
- He's behind Jordan, Magic, and Bird, and probably Kareem too. Maybe not Wilt, Bill Russell is a close one, and everyone else would be a stretch. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:32
Top 5 might not be pushing it. He's undoubtedly top 10. - TFox Jun 18, 07:25 4
- Your IM is correct. -- nm - flavorize Jun 18, 07:28
- yup. -- nm - Beaker Jun 18, 07:27 2
  - as a Kobe hater I must say I enjoyed his shot at Shaq last night...I'm all about petty and vindictive -- nm - Beaker Jun 18, 07:29 1
    - Shaq started that nonsense. Both would've suffered without each other. Sad they can't be pals like Pippen+MJ -- nm - flavorize Jun 18, 07:32
top 10, not top 5. no matter what espn says. -- nm - tRuMaN Jun 18, 07:25

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