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In response to "Basketball folks: Where does Kobe rank all-time? I'm thinking Top 10 easily, but Top 5 might be pushing it? -- nm" by Shaun

I'd rank him about 10th.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Jun 18 '10, 07:35

he's been way too head-casey to be a dependable teammate and his closing spurts the past few years have been....lacking. 6 for 24 last night?

I'd rank him behind, just in this generation, Jordan, and Duncan.

Remember, before they got Gasol in a trade that any fantasy league woulda vetoed, this was a 42 win team.

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I was just thinking about Duncan. What about Olajuwon? -- nm - flavorize Jun 18, 07:38 2
- Kobe's going to pass Hakeem on the scoring chart next year at 31, has more than double the titles... nope. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:40
- No. Olajuwon had 2 years when Jordan wasn't around. - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:39
I could concede the argument for Duncan too. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:35 9
- Try as I might want to, I can't ignore the concept that he was such a headcase in the past that he'd get so pissed off at his team, he'd pull some of - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:39
- Well, I dunno. I maybe could. I think Kobe's better. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:35 7
  - I think it comes down the idea that in Duncan, I'm getting steady brilliance. In Kobe, I'm getting a guy who very likely could be the best but also - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:40 6
    - In Kobe, you're getting a player who gives you an over 40% chance of winning an NBA title each year as a starter. - TFox Jun 18, 07:42 5
      - I look at it this way; Shaq and him won 3. He and Gasol (in a ridiculous trade) have won 2. - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:46 4
        
        Jordan had Pippen the whole way; it doesn't invalidate his titles. It's not like Gasol was dominant in this series. At all. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:48 3
        
        It does give a baseline for Kobe's ability that 5 titles, all required a 2nd fiddle of note - Will Hunting Jun 18, 07:55 2
        
        So did Jordan's. And I think you're stretching to put Gasol on Shaq's level too. And Bird had McHale and Parish, and Magic had Kareem, and so on. -- nm - TFox Jun 18, 07:57 1
        
        Gasol's not on his level per se, but he's unquestionably put them at a much higher level and came about due to a trade that - Will Hunting Jun 18, 08:03

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I'd rank him about 10th.

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