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Apple decides that James Joyce's Ulysses comic adaption is to graphic...& wouldn't allow it until changes were made... -- (link)

Posted by Remlik (aka remlik) Jun 19 '10, 09:01

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link (www.nytimes.com)

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I really didn't need another reason to dislike Apple but there it is. -- nm - Krusty Jun 19, 09:05
I don't understand why Apple is censoring for content. How is it their business? -- nm - Reagen Jun 19, 09:03 30
- Apple didn't censor. They declined to sell it as it was. The creators made the change. -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:09 28
  - in order for the book to be sold they had to do as Apple asked or it wouldn't be sold. -- nm - Remlik Jun 19, 09:15 26
    - So if I bring my crappy comic book into your store, you have to sell it? -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:16 7
      - If I was selling something that was even worse, sure. Like Apple is doing with Kick Ass. -- nm - Remlik Jun 19, 10:10
      - Of course not but they didn't decide it was a crappy comic and not worth selling. They decided the content was inappropriate and that was why they - Krusty Jun 19, 09:20
      - sell it or don't sell it. But don't bowdlerize it. - Reagen Jun 19, 09:20 4
        
        The publisher made the decision to change it. Apple just refused to offer it without the change. The publisher could refuse the change & go elsewhere. -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:22 3
        
        that's very true. -- nm - Remlik Jun 19, 10:09
        
        a distinction without a difference. -- nm - Reagen Jun 19, 09:25
        
        yes sure - Danedukenuuk Jun 19, 09:24
    - on the iPad. -- nm - TFox Jun 19, 09:16
    - Mr. Berry said that he did not feel �remotely censored by Apple.� �It�s their rules,� he said. �We�re coming to their dinner party at their house.� -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:16 16
      - He may not have felt censored but that's what happened, Apple censored his comic. - Krusty Jun 19, 09:18 15
        
        I don't agree with Apple, but it's not censorship. -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:21 14
        
        I don't see how it's not censorship. They comic is fine with them except for some nudity which they say has to be changed for them to sell the comic. - Krusty Jun 19, 09:22 13
        
        Because there are other outlets for the publisher to sell the comic as is. -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:24 12
        
        as long as someone else collect the oil BP is not having a spill? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Jun 19, 09:29
        
        That's true, but the fact there are other outlets doesn't change the nature of Apple's actions. - celedhring Jun 19, 09:27 1
        
        Exaclty. It's censorship no matter how you look at. -- nm - Krusty Jun 19, 09:29
        
        so as ling as a single printer will print the political statement it's not censoship? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Jun 19, 09:26
        
        Also, by that logic, China isn't censoring Google. -- nm - Reagen Jun 19, 09:25 4
        
        If Google is agreeing to the terms that China sets up to be available in China, then it's not censorship. -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:27 3
        
        by that logic the press is free in NothKorea - Danedukenuuk Jun 19, 09:31
        
        Then censorship doesn't exist by your reasoning. You're always "accepting the rules" if you are seeking approval from anybody. -- nm - celedhring Jun 19, 09:30
        
        I find that ridiculous. -- nm - Reagen Jun 19, 09:28
        
        For now. -- nm - Reagen Jun 19, 09:25 2
        
        That's a problem of media consolidation, not of censorship. -- nm - Dano Jun 19, 09:27 1
        
        it's why censorship is a problem. -- nm - Reagen Jun 19, 09:29
  - yes thats a real difference -- nm - Danedukenuuk Jun 19, 09:11
- what's interesting to me, on a comic level, is that hey have no problem selling Kick-Ass through their system. -- nm - Remlik Jun 19, 09:07
digging holes top 2: - Danedukenuuk Jun 19, 09:02

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