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In response to "You seem to be with Dane on this one." by pmb

Really pmb? I'm not, and I've said so numerous times. I've just made an analogy, and explained why it's apt.

how it's different from a goal tend. I've repeately said I think it's a failing of the rules. If you want to mis-represent what I've said, feel free, I'm kinda used to it with David at this point.

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