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In response to "(He was both for us.) -- nm" by David

Not uncommon for starters moving up a level. What is uncommon is for players who have never starterd a professional game to become starters.

that's what limits Collins value.

You seem to think I'm saying collins isn't good. QUite the contrary, he's very good. It's what makes this a good trade for ATL. But I also like the deal for TOR.


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