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In response to "starting at sunset means like almost 9p. and families bring their screaming brat kids, shoppers are still walking all around" by chuckles

Take her to a roof top lounge (well, not really roof top, but to top floor). West at the Angelino Hotel in Westwood,

Penthouse at the Huntley hotel in Santa Monica (girls like this hotel a lot, glass elevator, really nice valet entrance) or the Bona Vista Lounge in the Bonaventure hotel downtown.

The Standard downtown is nice but might not be your crowd.


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