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Wow. Weren't they originally saying more like 100 miles?

Posted by Black Rabbit (aka Spawn) Jul 27 '10, 10:21

40 knocks it out of any sensible running.

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40 miles is enough to cover at least half of a round-trip commute for most people... - znufrii Jul 27, 10:25 23
- But *having* to plug it in somewhere other than home is a deal breaker for a lot of people. - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:27 8
  - that's a good point - znufrii Jul 27, 10:28 5
    - I don't see the problem. Just run it on gas until you get to plug -- nm - JD Jul 27, 10:41 4
      - Yeah, an incremental improvement is better than no improvement. - musubi, adorable Jul 27, 10:44 1
        
        $ -- nm - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:46
      - for people who don't have regular access to a plug...have to park on the street or what have you... - znufrii Jul 27, 10:43 1
        
        If you don't have a garage this absolutely is not the car for you. -- nm - Ender Jul 27, 10:48
  - Then it runs on gas the way back. -- nm - JaxSean Jul 27, 10:28 1
    - (which is my major issue with the "all electric" vehicles.) - JaxSean Jul 27, 10:32
- Per Chevy 75% of people have a commute of less than 40 miles per day. -- nm - Ender Jul 27, 10:26 13
  - My round trip is 30 miles, and I live in the biggest city in the continental US. - JaxSean Jul 27, 10:27
  - 25% of people have a commute of more than 40 miles per day? - TFox Jul 27, 10:27 10
    - Seems low. -- nm - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:27 9
      - Seems mad high to me. -- nm - TFox Jul 27, 10:28 8
        
        I wouldn't be surprised if a larger percentage commutes >40mi in Southern Cal. - musubi, adorable Jul 27, 10:31
        
        depends if they're talking 40 miles each way, of 40 round-trip - znufrii Jul 27, 10:29 3
        
        It's one-way, it's based on a DOT survey. -- (link) - Ender Jul 27, 10:33 2
        
        Wait, I didn't say what I meant to say. I meant it's 40 miles round trip, 20 miles one-way. -- nm - Ender Jul 27, 10:34 1
        
        I was gonna say... - znufrii Jul 27, 10:35
        
        Isn't RI like 10 miles wide, though? :) -- nm - JaxSean Jul 27, 10:28 1
        
        a whopping 37 miles! and that's the short way! - TFox Jul 27, 10:32
        
        (but i also live in a very small place, so what do i know.) -- nm - TFox Jul 27, 10:28
  - I'd rather base it on time, cause 40 miles could take 4 hours in some places...\ -- nm - Beaker Jul 27, 10:26
It's up in the 100 range if you include the gas engine -- nm - oblique Jul 27, 10:23 17
- 340 miles actually with a full tank of gas. -- nm - Ender Jul 27, 10:25 15
  - but doesn't using gas kinda of defeat the purpose of the thing in the first place? -- nm - Beaker Jul 27, 10:25 14
    - Hell no. Google "Gallons per Mile" (as opposed to Miles per Gallon) and see the difference. -- nm - JaxSean Jul 27, 10:33
    - You're never going to be able to mass market a car that can only be plugged in for hours when it runs out of range. - Ender Jul 27, 10:28 7
      - Uh, isn't Honda doing it? - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:32 6
        
        While I'm sure Honda probably has a similar model, I think the Nissan Leaf is the all-electric that's closest to market. (nm) - musubi, adorable Jul 27, 10:39 1
        
        That was the one, Nissan. -- nm - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:42
        
        And we'll see how "mass" that market turns out to be. - Ender Jul 27, 10:35 1
        
        See below. But the company is one of the majors. -- nm - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:37
        
        I don't think Tesla cars have a gas tank. -- nm - JaxSean Jul 27, 10:34 1
        
        They don't. -- nm - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:36
    - but what percentage of your trips are more than 40 miles? -- nm - znufrii Jul 27, 10:27
    - no. -- nm - TFox Jul 27, 10:26
    - You still get super better milage. -- nm - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:26
    - even using electricity isn't all it's cracked up to be depending on how it has been generated... -- nm - Beaker Jul 27, 10:26 1
      - typical internal combustion engine efficiency is like 20%. Even taking that oil and buring it to produce electricity gets you to about 30%. -- nm - Reagen Jul 27, 10:35
- Ah, that's right. Forgot which one was all electric, which one was not. -- nm - Black Rabbit Jul 27, 10:24

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